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Re:Nobody Cares About Security by thaumasiotes on Monday September 09, 2024 @01:42PM (#41491197)
> I came up with a nice write-up for both our company and the hospital IT groups on how to secure our infrastructure with certs and whatnot and they still half-assed it with self-signed certificates.

What's the problem with self-signed certificates? Did they not know each other?

Re:Nobody Cares About Security by uid65534 on Monday September 09, 2024 @02:18PM (#41491632)
IME when people start using self signed certificates they trust anything that is presented, with no pinning. That means that so long as you MITM it with something with it's own self signed cert it will work just fine.
Re:Nobody Cares About Security by PeterisP on Monday September 09, 2024 @05:10PM (#41493918)
This is why "self-signed" is a misleading term, as it means both literally self-signed, as in, "we have added root of trust that we control and our devices trust only certificates signed by ourselves, as cryptographically verified", and also "our devices trust any certificate signed by anyone and ignore errors", and doesn't make a distinction between these two very different cases.

Especially for internal server-to-server connections there shouldn't be any security weaknesses in a fully self-signed architecture where the same scripts that deploy the certificates will also deploy the configuration on other servers specifying that this is the only thing that should be trusted.