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Re:Gitea blocks PR from community, charging $$ for open-sour... by andrewmcwatters on Monday September 09, 2024 @11:15AM (#41489310)
So? Why does a business have an obligation to give away their intellectual property for free? When you submit a PR to a business’s intellectual property, it’s still theirs.

The years go by and the beggar attitude of open source users gets more and more tiring.

Re:Gitea blocks PR from community, charging $$ for open-sour... by dartos on Monday September 09, 2024 @11:20AM (#41489355)
Open source contributors don’t get paid for their contributions, but gitea org does.

Expecting your volunteer contributions to not get paywalled is not a beggar attitude…

Gitea specifically has a track record of taking advantage of the good will of open source contributors, which is why the forgejo fork exists.

Re:Gitea blocks PR from community, charging $$ for open-sour... by techknowlogick on Wednesday September 11, 2024 @04:12PM (#41514961)
I commented here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41514547, but CommitGo was founded to ensure the longevity of the Gitea project. Due to the formation of the company more maintainers have been able to be paid for their time, and bounties/contracted work etc.. all go straight to the project.
Re:Gitea blocks PR from community, charging $$ for open-sour... by tempfile on Monday September 09, 2024 @12:10PM (#41489983)
It's hard to distinguish this comment from a troll response. But just to deal with the factual claim:

> When you submit a PR to a business’s intellectual property, it’s still theirs.

Nope, contributions do not "belong" to the receiving project unless explicitly agreed so. They were created under a license, and are (usually) reciprocally licensed to the project. The owner is and always was the contributor.

To call someone a beggar for asking for their code back is beyond belief.

Re:Gitea blocks PR from community, charging $$ for open-sour... by gjsman-1000 on Monday September 09, 2024 @11:21AM (#41489372)
> The years go by and the beggar attitude of open source users gets more and more tiring.

This is actually one of the most shocking revelations about the open source community and the attitude of many Hacker News readers.

Most of us live in the best .1% of existence, that has ever existed. Highest income, A/C office, minimal physical toil, no risk of slavery, minimal risk of wars or famines, and on and on.

Life's so good, we need to invent things to convince ourselves we're still being oppressed somehow. Several companies charge $10/mo. for a movie rental? How dare they, pirate them all. Windows wants $120 for a license? Oppression! Last week, some guy wrote a fantastic UI library and wanted $100 per project? Unreasonable, and he's personally greedy!

Our ancestors would've been absolutely aghast at the exceedingly miserly attitude many developers have. We have the largest collection of entertainment to ever exist, and we are entitled to have it all for free because we can? We can have the fruit of hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands of hours of labor in exchange for about ~2-3 of our own (a ludicrous cost-benefit ratio historically), and we would rather pick something a quarter as good instead because that's not enough? How greedy are we?

/Rant over.

Re:Gitea blocks PR from community, charging $$ for open-sour... by idle_zealot on Monday September 09, 2024 @11:31AM (#41489511)
I think our ancestors would be aghast at our legal system that has outlawed the propagation of culture and knowledge without paying tariffs to whoever "owns" the relevant ideas.
Re:Gitea blocks PR from community, charging $$ for open-sour... by gjsman-1000 on Monday September 09, 2024 @11:33AM (#41489540)
One glance at how much censorship there was historically, especially after the invention of the printing press; and I think you'll find this notion rather fanciful.
Re:Gitea blocks PR from community, charging $$ for open-sour... by collingreen on Monday September 09, 2024 @11:34AM (#41489560)
This reads like "eat your dinner; there are starving kids in <FOREIGN COUNTRY>" which hints at a valid point but even the toddlers know isn't a good argument.

Calling people greedy solely because "it could be worse" is rude and misanthropic. Calling them greedy for wanting a bounty-funded, community contribution to be merged into the community version not just the paywall version is ridiculous to me. Maybe the "shocking revelation" about the open source community is how easily some turn to corporate bootlicking.

Re:Gitea blocks PR from community, charging $$ for open-sour... by gjsman-1000 on Monday September 09, 2024 @11:36AM (#41489587)
My rant was in general, not against this specific issue, just as I believe the OP's post is. Yeah, taking advantage of volunteer work, not a great thing even if legal.

On the other hand, the unsympathetic side of me says, "That's the license; those are the rules of the game which everyone voluntarily agreed to; and you don't have to like how some people play the game."

There's no place in FOSS licenses for "Rule #7: Don't do anything that isn't nice."

Re:Gitea blocks PR from community, charging $$ for open-sour... by tempfile on Monday September 09, 2024 @12:14PM (#41490023)
> My rant was general, not against this specific issue

Sure, and the comment you're replying to also explained the error in your argument in general. Being privileged and exploited are not mutually exclusive. "those are the rules of the game" is not very far from saying "everything that is possible is fair". It's the logic of a bully.

Re:Gitea blocks PR from community, charging $$ for open-sour... by andrewmcwatters on Monday September 09, 2024 @12:16PM (#41490040)
I guess my opinion to you is that I'm high and mighty, but let's see you give up your work for free first. Go on, do it.

Or should we all be in poverty because you say so? Do you tell your kids to finish their plate because there are starving children in Africa?