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Re:Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money by VoodooJuJu on Sunday September 08, 2024 @09:28AM (#41480295)
>Get to skip out out of the overt semi-colonial feel...

This is a projection. If you actually talked to normal people and listened to how they feel, you'd find they don't harbor these kinds of agitations. They're more concerned with affording groceries, raising healthy children, and having a bit of fun where they can afford it.

If you feel this way, it's either because you're part of an insulated upper or ruling class, or because you consume too much media from upper & ruling class outlets.

Re:Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money by ryandrake on Sunday September 08, 2024 @10:15AM (#41480540)
It's also currently fashionable to describe any mixing of Western people/money/enterprise with the developing world as "colonial." I don't think many people actually think they're King George III as they enjoy a vacation in the Bahamas.
Re:Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money by immibis on Sunday September 08, 2024 @10:51AM (#41480749)
They're talking about the obvious racial segregation: the white people are to be treated like kings, and the brown people are there to do the treating.
Re:Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money by ryandrake on Sunday September 08, 2024 @11:35AM (#41481003)
I don't really see how doing a little shopping when the ship comes into port or while staying at a foreign resort equates to being treated like a king because of your skin color.

My wife is from what we might call a developing country. When we go back to her home city to visit family, we'll occasionally go out to a store or eat at a restaurant, and while there, we're served by... brown people! Which makes sense because there are many, many brown people there. Am I supposed to feel bad about "colonizing" her city, just because I'm white? It's not even something I notice.

I guess I just don't get this odd American insistence on framing every interaction in terms of a power dynamic based on people's skin color.

Re:Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money by immibis on Sunday September 08, 2024 @05:20PM (#41483311)
The fact remains that there is a pattern of brown people being made to serve white people's every whim. When brown people take cruises to white people countries as often as white people take cruises to brown people countries, then it's excusable with "of course there are brown people in a brown people country" but when it mostly only happens one way around, that's a sign of how our society operates.
Re:Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money by ajross on Sunday September 08, 2024 @12:40PM (#41481376)
Except it's really not so clean. I just did an Alaska cruise, and the passenger set was about exactly as diverse as you'd expect: a ton of west coast tech folks and their families with pretty much the same ethnic backgrounds you'd see in a scrum meeting, a bunch of tourists from both Europe and east asia, etc...

Is that good/bad/classist/exclusionary/exploitive? Not really interested in engaging. Certainly economic unfairness is everywhere in the world. But "racial segregation" really isn't a good way to describe it.

Re:Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money by jghn on Sunday September 08, 2024 @01:20PM (#41481648)
> This is a projection

Somewhat. It depends on where you are and who you talk to. As with everything, it turns out that people aren't homogenous with their opinions. I've found on a lot of islands that you can find people exactly like you describe, people who actually like the tourism, and people who view it as quasi-colonialism. YMMV as they say.