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Re:Phind-405B and faster, high quality AI answers for everyone by okasaki on Friday September 06, 2024 @04:34AM (#41464163)
What?
Re:Phind-405B and faster, high quality AI answers for everyone by mdp2021 on Saturday September 07, 2024 @04:30AM (#41472442)
What "what"? Did the rest of the comments clarify the points to you or should I formulate a

"I am so sorry and heartbroken about having suggested that to play a sound you should use the, as you now inform me, non existing command and parameter `oboe --weird-format mysound.snd`, I'll check my information more thoroughly next time and make sure it will not happen again"...

Re:Phind-405B and faster, high quality AI answers for everyone by okasaki on Saturday September 07, 2024 @08:46PM (#41477417)
I mean I'm just not sure what you're saying. What does "eliciting violence" and "clean society" mean?

Are you ok?

When a web site says "Sorry, page not found" do you start punching your monitor?

When the delivery guy leaves a note saying "Sorry we missed you" do you go to the depot to beat up the employees?

Re:Phind-405B and faster, high quality AI answers for everyone by mdp2021 on Sunday September 08, 2024 @04:01AM (#41478920)
> What does "eliciting violence" and "clean society" mean

I think you are on a good trail to having understood what they meant.

The use of 'sorry' is not generally a problem because it is normally framed within expected behaviour and it adequate for a true representation, or not blatantly false. But you could imagine scenarios in which the term would be misused into inappropriate formality or manipulation and yes, disrespect is "eliciting violence". You normally work a way in the situation so that to avoid violence - that is another story.

In "sorry, page not found" 'sorry' is the descriptor for a state (i.e. "not the better case"); in "sorry we missed you" it is just courtesy - and it does not generally cover fault or negligence. But look: there are regions that adopt "your call is important to us", and regions that tend to avoid it - because the suspect of it being inappropriate (false) can be strong.

The outputs of LLMs I have used frequently passes the threshold, and possibly their structural engineering - if you had in front of you a worker, in flesh and bones, that in its outputs wrote plausible fiction ("I imagined a command `oboe` because it sounded good in the story") as opposed to answering your question, but under the veneer of answering questions (which implies, outputting relevant world assessments, Truth based), that would be a right "sore" for "sorry". The anthropomorphic features of LLMs compromise the quality of their outputs in terms of form, especially in solution-finding attempts that become loops of "This is the solution" // "Are you sure?" // "Definitely" // "It is not" // "Oh, I'm so sorry! It will not happen again. This is the solution" (loop...).