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Re:Ilya Sutskever's SSI Inc raises $1B by shwaj on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @01:33PM (#41448334)
There are layers of abstraction on top of “the math”. The back propagation math for a transformer is no different than for a multi-layer perception, yet a transformer is vastly more capable than a MLP. More to the point, it took a series of non-trivial steps to arrive at the transformer architecture. In other words, understanding the lowest-level math is no guarantee that you understand the whole thing, otherwise the transformer architecture would have been obvious.
Re:Ilya Sutskever's SSI Inc raises $1B by barrell on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @03:39PM (#41449816)
I don’t disagree that it’s non-trivial, but we’re comparing this to conciousness, intelligence, even life. Personally I think it’s apples and an orange grove, but I guess we’ll get our answer eventually. Pretty sure we’re on the path to take transformers to their limit, wherever that may be
Re:Ilya Sutskever's SSI Inc raises $1B by theGnuMe on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @02:37PM (#41448999)
We know architecture and training procedures matter in practice.

MLPs and transformers are ultimately theoretically equivalent. That means there is an MLP that represent the any function a given transformer can. However, that MLP is hard to identify and train.

Also the transformer contains MLPs as well...