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Re:Court handcuffs employees with non-compete agreements – a... by flanked-evergl on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @05:21AM (#41443571)
No US prisoner is forced to work in any meaningful sense of the word "forced". They can just not work, they won't get beaten for it, they won't get killed for it. In some states, they are required to work. It's not the same as being forced to work. Being a criminal does not entitled them to free room and board on the taxpayer dime, in fact in a just world, society would be entitled to restitution from the criminal.

There is no better time and place to be a criminal in the US than today. Criminals are being coddled, which is why most Democrat cities are so crime-ridden.

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Re:Court handcuffs employees with non-compete agreements – a... by waciki on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @05:35AM (#41443665)
> No US prisoner is forced to work in any meaningful sense of the word "forced".

"Refusal to work can be met with solitary confinement and physical beatings"

https://web.archive.org/web/20240224172720/https://www.washi...

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Re:Court handcuffs employees with non-compete agreements – a... by flanked-evergl on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @06:38AM (#41444032)
Corporal punishment in prisons is not legal in the US[1][2][3].

Prolonged solitary confinement is being used for people who do not refuse to work as well, even for people who have not been convicted[1]. You may think it's inhumane, but it not slavery.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hope_v._Pelzer

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson_v._McMillian

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estelle_v._Gamble

[4] https://eu.recordonline.com/story/news/local/2021/07/19/capi...

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Re:Court handcuffs employees with non-compete agreements – a... by razakel on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @06:54AM (#41444151)
>In some states, they are required to work.

>It's not the same as being forced to work.

That's exactly the same thing.

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Re:Court handcuffs employees with non-compete agreements – a... by flanked-evergl on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @07:00AM (#41444196)
No it's not. There is no physical or legal coercion, i.e. no force, i.e. not forced.
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Re:Court handcuffs employees with non-compete agreements – a... by razakel on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @07:02AM (#41444204)
What happens if you refuse?
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Re:Court handcuffs employees with non-compete agreements – a... by flanked-evergl on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @07:15AM (#41444291)
They may lose privileges and good time credits, and it may impact their parole. They do not lose rights as one may happen when one is convicted of a crime.
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Re:Court handcuffs employees with non-compete agreements – a... by batch12 on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @08:12AM (#41444739)
> They do not lose rights as one may happen when one is convicted of a crime.

So you get more time in prison, losing all rights, which is what happens when you're convicted of a crime? Just because you don't want there to be legal slavery doesn't mean there isn't legal slavery.

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Re:Court handcuffs employees with non-compete agreements – a... by flanked-evergl on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @08:39AM (#41444935)
Incorrect. You don't get more time in prison. The sentence is the sentence, and refusing to work does not increase the sentence.
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Re:Court handcuffs employees with non-compete agreements – a... by batch12 on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @09:44PM (#41452711)
You're playing with words. Early release means less time spent in prison.
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Re:Court handcuffs employees with non-compete agreements – a... by razakel on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @11:25AM (#41446884)
In what world is "work or we'll make your life even more miserable" not coercion?
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