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Re:How the psychiatric narrative hinders those who hear voices by echelon_musk on Tuesday September 03, 2024 @08:33PM (#41440681)
Thank you for having the courage to share this story. The only time I've heard voices was also from LSD and I remain convinced that the voice was a higher power, regardless of if I choose to label that god.

The world is not as the scientific rational model would have one believe. These substances show that indigenous cultures are thousands of years ahead of western society when it comes to understanding consciousness.

For anyone on the outside reading this; I can recommend The BBC's LSD The Beyond Within as a starting point.

Re:How the psychiatric narrative hinders those who hear voices by drdaeman on Tuesday September 03, 2024 @09:13PM (#41440922)
> The world is not as the scientific rational model would have one believe.

It's not the world that is not rational, it's humans' mind. Doesn't require higher powers, just a glitch in our own matrices.

Re:How the psychiatric narrative hinders those who hear voices by echelon_musk on Tuesday September 03, 2024 @09:34PM (#41441024)
> It's not the world that is not rational, it's humans' mind.

As humans we experience the world through our six sense doors e.g. eyes, ears, tongue, nose, touch and mind.

To try and separate the world from our minds is non trivial. It is our very mind that allows us to perceive the world.

> Doesn't require higher powers, just a glitch in our own matrices.

The matrices you describe are the sense doors.

I didn't imply that anything necessitates a higher power. If you are happier to exclude the notion I described from your world view that's okay. I'm not forcing you to be open minded!

Re:How the psychiatric narrative hinders those who hear voices by drdaeman on Thursday September 05, 2024 @02:29AM (#41454111)
> The matrices you describe are the sense doors.

I rather meant the logic gates ;) Or, more seriously, I was talking about the parts of the brain that handle language and reasoning, plus the memory bits.

I’m surprised that you have added “mind” as a sensory system of some kind, next to actual senses (I don’t think it is a sense of any kind on its own). Not sure what you meant, sorry.

Re:How the psychiatric narrative hinders those who hear voices by cvwright on Tuesday September 03, 2024 @10:08PM (#41441187)
The world is not just stuff!
Re:How the psychiatric narrative hinders those who hear voices by salad-tycoon on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @08:39AM (#41444928)
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." -Hamlet