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Re:How the psychiatric narrative hinders those who hear voices by margalabargala on Tuesday September 03, 2024 @05:51PM (#41439650)
Not sure about your use of "materialist" but there are plenty of examples of things like meditation having real physiological effects. Such as excessive meditation causing enlargement of certain areas of the brain that lead to (sometimes temporary, sometimes permanent) mental illness. There was an article about this on HN a few months ago, I can dig it up if needed.

Point being that it's entirely possible for the perceived sequence of events as described in the anecdote above to be true as experienced by that person, without the need for anything supernatural going on.

I would be curious to know why you think that scientific explanations will get more, not less, supernatural in the next 20 years.

EDIT: dug up the article https://danlawton.substack.com/p/when-buddhism-goes-bad

Re:How the psychiatric narrative hinders those who hear voices by partomniscient on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @12:34PM (#41447661)
Thanks for that.

Good read, and it also parallels discussions in mental health forums where people with dissociative mental health issues generally recommend against meditation, or at least some types of meditation (e.g. walking meditiation is ok, watching your observer/stillness/awareness types are not).