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Re:Upgrading a Toshiba NAS HDD Firmware on Linux by rbanffy on Monday September 02, 2024 @06:01AM (#41424086)
It depends on what is in the changelog. If there are performance or durability improvements, you might want to change the firmware even if you are not facing a significant issue. The downside is the risk to data on the disk - don't do that (or anything, really) on a drive that holds the only copy of something important.

If the drive is being moved to a different array or machine and the data is to be lost anyway, the risk is very low and, if the process is easy (unlike this) it might be a sensible move.

I agree "just because it's new" is a poor justification to risk data.

Re:Upgrading a Toshiba NAS HDD Firmware on Linux by naming_the_user on Monday September 02, 2024 @08:03AM (#41424743)
Back in the day I'd just wing it, hey, firmware update the only harddrive I own, what could go wrong.

Now if it's not on at least two drives within a few hours of something new (photo, video, work done, whatever) it seems like a terrible risk.

Part getting old, part being able to afford to have redundancy, I guess. Storage feels so much cheaper now.

Re:Upgrading a Toshiba NAS HDD Firmware on Linux by vocram on Monday September 02, 2024 @08:40AM (#41424943)
And in part because you remember all the times YOLO went wrong and you bricked stuff / lost data
Re:Upgrading a Toshiba NAS HDD Firmware on Linux by miah_ on Monday September 02, 2024 @08:50AM (#41424968)
HP has a bootable Linux CD that updates all the firmware on their devices, since the early 00's. We used to regularly update firmware across our entire fleet of servers during maintenance cycles. Never had a failure.
Re:Upgrading a Toshiba NAS HDD Firmware on Linux by Asmod4n on Monday September 02, 2024 @10:47AM (#41425783)
You are speaking about enterprise grade hardware which is meant to be updated. Consumer stuff not as much.
Re:Upgrading a Toshiba NAS HDD Firmware on Linux by worewood on Monday September 02, 2024 @11:27AM (#41426249)
More often than not, the changelog just states "performance improvement" or "bug fix", without any detail on what they've done.

For example, I've been bitten before by Dell due to plundervolt updates that removed the undervolting capability under the umbrella of "security fixes".

Re:Upgrading a Toshiba NAS HDD Firmware on Linux by rbanffy on Monday September 02, 2024 @12:38PM (#41426830)
> I've been bitten before by Dell due to plundervolt updates that removed the undervolting capability

That's enterprise computing for you.

Been bitten by that kind of shenanigan more often than I can remember.

Re:Upgrading a Toshiba NAS HDD Firmware on Linux by HeatrayEnjoyer on Monday September 02, 2024 @01:00PM (#41427018)
Happened to a colleague. Not sure if he ever found out how to rollback to the older version.
Re:Upgrading a Toshiba NAS HDD Firmware on Linux by userbinator on Monday September 02, 2024 @03:53PM (#41428289)
Usually BIOSes can be flashed with the machine off, using a "chip-clip" programmer.
Re:Upgrading a Toshiba NAS HDD Firmware on Linux by throwaway48476 on Monday September 02, 2024 @06:44PM (#41429401)
They can but the data on the chip is a combination of machine specific identifiers, config data, and BIOS code. If you chip flash it you have to get an image from some sketchy place and it will nuke your serial number etc. You can also have problems if your RAM is made by a different manufacturer. Chip flashing is a last resort.
Re:Upgrading a Toshiba NAS HDD Firmware on Linux by rbanffy on Monday September 02, 2024 @03:45PM (#41428239)
Usually there isn't, unless there is a sufficiently serious issue with the update.
Re:Upgrading a Toshiba NAS HDD Firmware on Linux by HeatrayEnjoyer on Tuesday September 03, 2024 @08:37AM (#41434368)
Why wouldn't there be a rollback option, especially on enterprise hardware? If it breaks something you need to revert, and quickly