Buy, Borrow, Die – Explained

Re:Buy, Borrow, Die – Explained by valval on Sunday September 01, 2024 @02:20AM (#41414743)

Funny how everything you voice out here is the most cookie cutter, mainstream media brainwashed opinions. Supporting the war in Ukraine is just another example of “bombing brown people”, yet you appear completely oblivious.

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Re:Buy, Borrow, Die – Explained by Propelloni on Sunday September 01, 2024 @03:48AM (#41415071)

> Supporting the war in Ukraine is just another example of “bombing brown people”, yet you appear completely oblivious.

How?

Russia invades the Ukraine. Ukraine defends itself. Ukraine's allies, incl. the USA, send weapons. None of the allies, incl. the USA, fight in Ukraine or Russia.

I'm afraid your independent thinking has formed a prejudiced opinion. George Carlin would not be proud.

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Re:Buy, Borrow, Die – Explained by potatototoo99 on Sunday September 01, 2024 @05:26AM (#41415467)

The US has no allies, only interests. It interests us to be adversarial to Russia. It interests us to "bomb brown people". None of which is done out of some moral duty.

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Re:Buy, Borrow, Die – Explained by Propelloni on Sunday September 01, 2024 @08:01AM (#41416227)

Is this supposed to be some insight? The very definition of "alliance" says: groups or people who work together because of shared interests. You ally because you share interests, e.g. a specific goal.

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Re:Buy, Borrow, Die – Explained by valval on Sunday September 01, 2024 @07:41AM (#41416080)

Of course this time around we have to do the bombing through some middlemen because the brown people have big guns too, and the people aren’t actually brown this time around. They do speak a weird language though and have different cultural values, so maybe that qualifies.

Ukraine isn’t our ally. That’s a silly sentiment. Ukraine is a developing country wholly comparable to say Zambia or Namibia. Our interests just happen to align this way this time around.

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Re:Buy, Borrow, Die – Explained by Propelloni on Sunday September 01, 2024 @08:07AM (#41416272)

> Ukraine isn’t our ally. That’s a silly sentiment.

You know what, I agree.

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Re:Buy, Borrow, Die – Explained by aguaviva on Sunday September 01, 2024 @10:59AM (#41417489)

Ukraine is a developing country wholly comparable to say Zambia or Namibia.

Ukraine is a highly developed country, in some ways more than the U.S. Its people are certainly way more educated, on average.

If you can't get that part right, then I doubt you have much to tell us about the context of the war or whether Ukraine is an ally or not.

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Re:Buy, Borrow, Die – Explained by valval on Sunday September 01, 2024 @03:51PM (#41419794)

The numbers are all out there, behind 1 minutes of searching.

My wife's side of the family is entirely Russian, so I have some basic knowledge on the subject.

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Re:Buy, Borrow, Die – Explained by aguaviva on Sunday September 01, 2024 @04:13PM (#41419972)

The numbers are all out there, behind 1 minutes of searching.

And they speak decidedly against your claims:

https://hdr.undp.org/system/files/documents/hdr2020.pdf

Ukraine's development ranking is classed as 'High', while Namibia and Zambia are both classed as 'Medium'.

My wife's side of the family is entirely Russian, so I have some basic knowledge on the subject

I have direct knowledge of the country as well. Your wife can say whatever she wants to say.

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Re:Buy, Borrow, Die – Explained by valval on Monday September 02, 2024 @06:57AM (#41424332)

A handy report crafted by biased people in some unproductive sinecures, but the numbers really do speak for themselves.

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Re:Buy, Borrow, Die – Explained by aguaviva on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @10:01PM (#41452790)

So you've never actually seen "the numbers", is what I'm hearing.

Yet you know they're out there somewhere, and that they speak for themselves.

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