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Re:Crows Are Even Smarter Than We Thought by wruza on Saturday August 31, 2024 @02:48AM (#41406980)
That this “animals no conscious” is default feels like a sort of all-anthropic religion. I don’t get how one imagines being an animal and… it just exists as an automaton? And for some reason exactly humans are all conscious/intelligent, even brain damaged (in literal sense). I bet “those looking like me are very special” is somewhere in our genes, playing an obsolete role competing with other humanoid groups.
Re:Crows Are Even Smarter Than We Thought by randallsquared on Saturday August 31, 2024 @07:46AM (#41408162)
One can imagine being a thermostat, or a car. The question of what it is like to be a bat skips the hard problem.
Re:Crows Are Even Smarter Than We Thought by devbent on Saturday August 31, 2024 @01:08PM (#41410238)
> I don’t get how one imagines being an animal and… it just exists as an automaton? And for some reason exactly humans are all conscious/intelligent,

So far evidence points to the simpler solution that all living creatures are automatons and that there is no mechanism by which self determinism can exist.

Wide acceptance of such a belief would pretty much ruin society so it is best if we all just go on pretending we are masters of our own destiny.