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Re:Dawn of a new era in Search: Balancing innovation, compet... by cube2222 on Thursday August 29, 2024 @02:42PM (#41394011)
I've been using Kagi for a while (almost two years now!) and it's been nothing but excellent!

Lenses are very useful (Reddit lens is on every second search), and I personally really like the AI features they are working on.

The quick assist triggered by a question mark at the end of a search query which makes a quick ai-generated summary of the few top results is something I use constantly.

The new more advanced assistant which is able to do searches, which can also be constrained to lenses, and lets you pick an arbitrary model, is also excellent, and basically means I don't need a chatgpt/claude subscription, as Kagi covers it very well.

All in all, great product which I'm happy to pay for.

Re:Dawn of a new era in Search: Balancing innovation, compet... by baybayblonde on Thursday August 29, 2024 @03:04PM (#41394235)
What is "Lenses", is it the Google Lens?
Re:Dawn of a new era in Search: Balancing innovation, compet... by cube2222 on Thursday August 29, 2024 @03:08PM (#41394268)
Here's the docs[0].

It's basically a saved partial filter that you can use when searching. So you can e.g. say you only want to search reddit and have that saved as an easily-accessible button. But there's also predefined ones like "Forums" and "Academic", so that's the general idea.

The cool thing is you can enable a Lens when using the AI assistant with internet access, so its searches are also constrained to that Lens.

[0]: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/features/lenses.html

Re:Dawn of a new era in Search: Balancing innovation, compet... by ethbr1 on Thursday August 29, 2024 @03:33PM (#41394492)
It's essentially search-space limitation, based on what you want to nudge the engine into responding with.

I.e. what power users used to do with Google, before it decided to ignore user intent

Re:Dawn of a new era in Search: Balancing innovation, compet... by Brian_K_White on Friday August 30, 2024 @07:43AM (#41399752)
I don't know how you could ever do kagi small web with google.

That's not a simple hard filter but changes what types of results are more or less preferred.

Re:Dawn of a new era in Search: Balancing innovation, compet... by elashri on Friday August 30, 2024 @01:10PM (#41402632)
Lenses are different from kagi small web. I encourage you to read the docs on both.

You are replying on someone explaining lenses which is something google had something similar in the past when they allowed power users to control search.

https://help.kagi.com/kagi/features/lenses.html

https://blog.kagi.com/small-web

Re:Dawn of a new era in Search: Balancing innovation, compet... by ethbr1 on Friday August 30, 2024 @03:12PM (#41403622)
You can still use -site:{url} and related:{url} and after:{yyyy-mm-dd date}

But really, this is 2024. I shouldn't have to manually enumerate things in Google to get it to spit out serviceable results.

And the above nudges are pretty blunt force, compared to how much more it used to respect exact keywords.

Re:Dawn of a new era in Search: Balancing innovation, compet... by Fire-Dragon-DoL on Friday August 30, 2024 @06:17AM (#41399337)
I don't have the advanced assistant. Is it only on ultimate?
Re:Dawn of a new era in Search: Balancing innovation, compet... by cube2222 on Friday August 30, 2024 @07:22AM (#41399657)
Yeah, most AI features are.