Re:Knockknock: Simple, secure, and stealthy port knocking im...
by kazinator on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @03:21PM
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Anything is better than a 30 character password, including quitting computing and just doing vegetable farming on a tiny island, completely off every grid.
BTW, that remark I made about known_hosts applies to keys. You could put your SSH client keys (I mean private ones) on some HTTPS URL, so that you could fetch them to a brand new machine (e.g. burner phone purchased abroad).
And that's back to passwords: anyone else knowing that URL could fetch those keys, and their security depends on their password phrase. So we are back to relying on the strength of a password phrase as well as faith in attackers not knowing anything about such an URL.
Oh right; the URL could be .htpasswd protected too, let's not forget. :)
Re:Knockknock: Simple, secure, and stealthy port knocking im...
by KAMSPioneer on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @03:36PM
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Re: hosting your key, I think that's quite reasonable, again, assuming your access control + encryption is good. It's a solid break-glass solution. I would add monitoring that alerts if it is ever used, though. Then you can remediate quickly on the off-chance it is compromised. In day-to-day use I would stick with a different key that only lives on my machine.
Re:Knockknock: Simple, secure, and stealthy port knocking im...
by kazinator on Thursday August 29, 2024 @10:05AM
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> assuming your access control + encryption is good
Accessing a password-protected page over https is pretty much exactly the same access control + encryption as using a password with SSH.
Re:Knockknock: Simple, secure, and stealthy port knocking im...
by KAMSPioneer on Friday August 30, 2024 @03:16AM
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That's access control and transport encryption. By encryption I meant the encryption of the private key itself. I would not upload a plaintext private key, especially for privileged account access, even to a server I control.
Regarding _your_ scenario, cool bro, do whatever you want. However, if you reuse that password for any other servers, you're open to lateral movement attacks, which keys mitigate.
Actually I guess that's my main argument: you can mitigate the downsides of passwords, but keys are super simple, well-supported, and require no such fussiness. Just generate it, set a password, authorize it, forget it. Threats mitigated. If you want to futz about with workarounds, be my guest. I have no such desire.