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Re:The Fall of StackOverflow: A Data-Driven Analysis by dataengineer56 on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @04:35AM (#41377332)
I find StackOverflow interesting because there is (in my opinion) a ginormous gap between how the volunteer moderators feel that the site should operate vs how its users actually use it. I think it would be almost impossible for a new user to ask a well-received question these days.

Instead of striving to improve the user experience then the moderators spend their time bickering over meta issues. Many haven't asked or answered a question in the last five years.

Re:The Fall of StackOverflow: A Data-Driven Analysis by tempaway4575144 on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @04:46AM (#41377412)
I have a theory that if the homepage didn't show 'Featured On Meta' the reputation of the site would be much higher because we wouldn't all be getting a window into the bickering and nitpicking. The bickering and nitpicking is far too prominent on the homepage
Re:The Fall of StackOverflow: A Data-Driven Analysis by blackbrokkoli on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @04:56AM (#41377466)
That's a good point. I know no site where it takes less clicks to access the current in-group drama.

Thinking about it, know I want a "Current Drama" button where the "I'm feeling lucky" button used to be on gSearch :)

Re:The Fall of StackOverflow: A Data-Driven Analysis by tempaway4575144 on Wednesday September 04, 2024 @06:11PM (#41451420)
And its gone! 'Hot on Meta' has now disappeared from the homepage
Re:The Fall of StackOverflow: A Data-Driven Analysis by wvh on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @05:53AM (#41377794)
There are a lot of questions that try to find out if something is still the best way of doing things or the right technical choice at the present time. Those questions feel like duplicates or opinions, but are really not in many cases. Some areas of expertise move a lot faster, answers to questions about for instance Kubernetes or Javascript ecosystems tend to be out of date pretty quickly.

At least I feel more often the need to ask if I'm making a sane choice for the next few years rather than literal `1 + 1` questions with clear ever-green answers, which StackOverflow seems to prefer.

Re:The Fall of StackOverflow: A Data-Driven Analysis by layer8 on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @06:09AM (#41377874)
Maybe there should be a way to “bump” a question after a year or so, adding a comment along those lines.

Otherwise, if you explain why you’re asking the question again, link to the previous question, and maybe present arguments why you think the old answers might be outdated, then it’s lesa likely to be closed as a duplicate.

Re:The Fall of StackOverflow: A Data-Driven Analysis by pjc50 on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @05:48AM (#41377765)
The long standing tension is "StackOverflow is a Q&A site, not a forum". A key difference is forums allowing the same topics to come up over and over again, while SO was supposed to funnel all discussion back to "canonical" questions.

And of course many people come to SO with unformed questions or want a discussion for the social interaction, resulting in them getting hit with the SO hammer. Not quite sure where they've ended up, but the obvious one is Reddit.

People keep mentioning Discord, but I've no idea how you'd actually use a programming discord in the same way as you'd use SO, because if you make a post and come back an hour later surely it'll have vanished into the flow?

Re:The Fall of StackOverflow: A Data-Driven Analysis by DaiPlusPlus on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @04:39AM (#41377366)
Out of curiosity, have you seen the new “Staging Ground” feature?
Re:The Fall of StackOverflow: A Data-Driven Analysis by dataengineer56 on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @06:01AM (#41377830)
Yes in my opinion it's an absolute disaster that does nothing to help the new user experience.

1. Post a question as a new user

2. It goes into Staging Grounds instead of the main site, so there's no way to get an answer

3. Watch as a handful of powerusers flag it and demand changes, with a combination of user-written and automated comments

4. Make some of the recommended changes

5. It gets closed anyway and never makes it to the main site

To me it seems like a forum that effectively sanctions the bullying of new users. I'd like to see Staging Grounds success statistics.

Re:The Fall of StackOverflow: A Data-Driven Analysis by lawgimenez on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @05:51AM (#41377781)
I was one of the first testers of Staging Ground back in late 2022, if I remember they stopped it mid-2023. Now, I'm surprised they revived SG. Let's just say I'm not a fan of the idea or implementation.
Re:The Fall of StackOverflow: A Data-Driven Analysis by dunghill on Wednesday August 28, 2024 @05:11AM (#41377555)
It’s also possible that the target audience has changed significantly since its inception. The early adopters and moderators were true enthusiasts.