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Re:The Euphemism Treadmill by lolinder on Thursday August 22, 2024 @12:55AM (#41316945)
> the characterization of language evolving as a shibboleth.

When I showed up at my most recent job I used "you guys" once and immediately regretted it. Things got awkward for a second and then someone in the group constructed a sentence that allowed them to use "folks" and place the emphasis.

I adapted, but if that's not a shibboleth I don't know what is.

Re:The Euphemism Treadmill by hungie on Thursday August 22, 2024 @12:59AM (#41316977)
What was the negative consequence you experienced from that interaction (genuine)? Did you follow up afterwards to understand why someone chose both the language they did?
Re:The Euphemism Treadmill by DangitBobby on Thursday August 22, 2024 @02:21AM (#41317357)
They were made to feel awkward in that interaction for no reason, and possibly judged unfairly.
Re:The Euphemism Treadmill by burnished on Thursday August 22, 2024 @05:18AM (#41318255)
You gotta be pretty sensitive to consider momentary awkwardness a consequence when someone blamelessly and passively corrects you.

How do you reckon that they were judged here at all? This is a level of transgression roughly equivalent to mispronouncing someones name for the first time, I can't imagine anyone else even remembering this incident aside from OP and even they may only remember because the human brain reserves 10% of its space for reliving minor faux pas.

Re:The Euphemism Treadmill by burnished on Thursday August 22, 2024 @05:08AM (#41318202)
That isn't a shibboleth because it doesn't mark you as a member of their group. It sounds like a simple preference against gendered language (or maybe the default masculine, idk).

Using the word 'head' to refer to the bathroom would be a shibboleth.

Side note: I find that preference odd because I come from a context where 'you guys' is neutral, but ultimately view it as a deficiency in the english language.