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Re:the US lays out a road safety plan that will see cars 'ta... by ghssds on Wednesday August 21, 2024 @01:20AM (#41306999)
> V2X enables vehicles to stay in touch with each other as well as pedestrians, cyclists, other road users and roadside infrastructure.

I understand this as traffic cones, pedestrians, bicyclists, and people in wheelchairs being V2X-enabled too, somehow.

Re:the US lays out a road safety plan that will see cars 'ta... by falcor84 on Wednesday August 21, 2024 @04:51AM (#41308242)
Oh, that sounds dystopian - "Ma'am, I'm sorry to inform you that your husband was fatally hit by a car as he attempted to cross the street without his government-mandated V2X tracker; as you are aware, by doing so he triggered the suicide exclusion clause in his insurance policy and forfeited his eligibility"
Re:the US lays out a road safety plan that will see cars 'ta... by TomK32 on Wednesday August 21, 2024 @04:56AM (#41308263)
All just because he once signed up for a Disney+ trial.
Re:the US lays out a road safety plan that will see cars 'ta... by carlmr on Wednesday August 21, 2024 @05:02AM (#41308305)
I really like how in German law anything that could be regarded as surprising in a ToS is just thrown out.
Re:the US lays out a road safety plan that will see cars 'ta... by TomK32 on Wednesday August 21, 2024 @06:17AM (#41308727)
I'm pretty sure you can also find that in some EU regulation.
Re:the US lays out a road safety plan that will see cars 'ta... by carlmr on Wednesday August 21, 2024 @07:17AM (#41309120)
Yes, Germany introduced them in 1976 and the EU based their regulation (Directive 93/13) on it in 1993.
Re:the US lays out a road safety plan that will see cars 'ta... by immibis on Wednesday August 21, 2024 @01:49PM (#41312523)
Not a universal principle in Germany though. Today I was awoken by government thugs breaking into my room and telling me that even though I paid my rent, someone else didn't pay theirs so I'm homeless now (collective punishment). If only I was joking.

I refused to leave, so they called more government thugs (i.e. the police) to help them drag me out, but the police told them they have to give people three weeks notice before making them homeless so fuck off.

Re:the US lays out a road safety plan that will see cars 'ta... by carlmr on Thursday August 22, 2024 @02:32AM (#41317416)
I'm sorry to hear that. Was this part of your rental agreement? If so WTF? If not what was the reasoning?
Re:the US lays out a road safety plan that will see cars 'ta... by jerf on Wednesday August 21, 2024 @01:54PM (#41312558)
Nominally that is the case in US law too. Contracts can not have "unconscionable" clauses in them, and certainly a free trial for a streaming service that you never even paid for several years ago affecting an interaction with an amusement park is insane. But common law (a term of art, not just an adjective stuck to a noun) has a lot of inconvenient principles in it that limit the power of the government, and as the rule of man progresses in the US, this becomes increasingly hypothetical.
Re:the US lays out a road safety plan that will see cars 'ta... by Piskvorrr on Wednesday August 21, 2024 @06:47AM (#41308923)
RIP Elaine Herzberg.

Somehow, as in handwave: "Unless everything is equipped with a correctly working, charged and network-connected tracker, it has no business being on a road." Well good luck with that, outside of a fully instrumented testing area.

Well, there's a less compassionate reading of this, too: "wasn't tracked, therefore not our problem, sincerely: vendors, insurance companies, et al."

Re:the US lays out a road safety plan that will see cars 'ta... by numpad0 on Wednesday August 21, 2024 @08:12AM (#41309474)
Yep, that's why V2X never took off. Everything has to have radio tags, and failed tags could easily cause deaths and catastrophic failures. No way that scales or even works at limited scale.

Lots of metro trains systems use a lunchbox sized wireless tags placed strategically in stations for redundant safety and precision braking control. Said train systems also goes down daily for rather extensive maintenance(cost justified by scale).

Few people knows what oils for cars is. No way they can readily transition into verifying electronic tag signal integrity reports for every individual traffic cones in the shed.