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Re:Artificial intelligence is losing hype by hnfong on Tuesday August 20, 2024 @05:52AM (#41298476)
At this point bringing up the ELIZA argument is basically bad faith gaslighting…

Finding bugs in some models doesn’t mean you have a point about intelligence. If somebody could apply a similar argument to dismiss human intelligence, you don’t have a point. And here it goes: the most advanced human intelligence can’t reliably multiply large numbers or recall digits of Pi. Obviously humans are dumber than pocket calculators.

Re:Artificial intelligence is losing hype by psb217 on Tuesday August 20, 2024 @05:28PM (#41304272)
Your counterargument is invalid. The most advanced human intelligence invented (or discovered) concepts like multiplication, pi, etc., and created tools to work around the ways in which these concepts aren't well handled by their biological substrate. When machine intelligences start inventing biological tools to overcome the limits of their silicon existence, you'll have a point.
Re:Artificial intelligence is losing hype by mypalmike on Tuesday August 20, 2024 @07:14PM (#41305056)
Designing biological tools is not a commonly accepted bar for AGI.
Re:Artificial intelligence is losing hype by biomcgary on Tuesday August 20, 2024 @05:51PM (#41304471)
Isn't the comment you are responding to an example of: "When machine intelligences start inventing biological tools to overcome the limits of their silicon existence, you'll have a point"?