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Re:The Nokia Torture by Spearchucker on Monday June 18, 2012 @04:01PM (#4128199)
So how does mondaynote's view reconcile with, say, Nokia's role in IDC's predictions?

http://windowsphonegeek.com/news/IDC-Latest-Report-Windows-P...

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Re:The Nokia Torture by runako on Monday June 18, 2012 @06:50PM (#4129010)
If I'm not mistaken, Microsoft is a big customer of IDC. While IDC isn't strictly pay-to-play, many of these "independent" analysts essentially make money recommending products produced by their customers. I'd consider it likely that Microsoft's cash is a factor in IDC's coverage.

Also worth noting is that IDC's track record here is pretty bad. From the article you linked:

"IDC predicted that Windows Phone would become the number two smartphone OS in terms of shipments back in March 2011"

Oops.

Re:The Nokia Torture by daniel_solano on Monday June 18, 2012 @04:14PM (#4128250)
Well, for one thing, they are very nearly talking about two completely different things.

This is a commentary on a statement by Nokia that, if accurate, sums up to: Things are bad and worse than expected.

The IDC press release, which lacks any information on data or methods, seems to say: If Nokia can turn its emerging market dumb phone users into Windows smart phone users, it will displace iOS as the number two smart phone OS in five years.