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Re:Why won't some people pay for news? (2022) by disgruntledphd2 on Friday August 16, 2024 @06:22AM (#41265008)
Look, I agree that this was a terrible, terrible situation that caused a _lot_ of pain for publishers (and contributed to many outlets becomingly meaningfully worse for me).

That being said, this was a bug in the code. All of us write bugs, and so we should maybe not be as harsh to other people who do. Was it a convenient bug? Yes it was, it helped push a narrative around video and provided more videos for people on FB. Was that intentional? Almost certainly not, although they should've fixed it much, much quicker.

Re:Why won't some people pay for news? (2022) by hobs on Friday August 16, 2024 @08:46AM (#41265905)
At facebook's size and for the duration that lie was told, no, that's inexcusable.

That's a knew or should have know territory - they were pushing a new feature, they lied about the impact of the new feature, they changed the industry around it and wasted billions of dollars. Later this was called "a bug" - seems beyond convenient for facebook when you know, double checking that type of thing is usually a big deal for advertisers.

Re:Why won't some people pay for news? (2022) by disgruntledphd2 on Friday August 16, 2024 @10:40AM (#41266856)
When this happened, Facebook was a much, much smaller company. They made the decision around pushing videos before this code was written, because of the engagement of videos on Facebook and Instagram.

Source: I was there, and tangentially involved in this

Re:Why won't some people pay for news? (2022) by hobs on Friday August 16, 2024 @11:56AM (#41267504)
Ah yes, 1.5B users, absolutely tiny :)

When my company made a mistake that cost our customers 750k, we fell on our sword and recouped them the cost.

We had 11k users at the time :)

Re:Why won't some people pay for news? (2022) by disgruntledphd2 on Tuesday August 20, 2024 @09:11AM (#41299758)
> Ah yes, 1.5B users, absolutely tiny :)

I meant in terms of employees. About 4.5k in my recall, for running FB, IG and Whatsapp, as well as all of the ads products.

Re:Why won't some people pay for news? (2022) by marcus_holmes on Sunday August 18, 2024 @02:19AM (#41280502)
It wasn't a bug. It was deliberate deception.

As other have said, they've lost court cases over it.

I'm a dev, I ship bugs all the time. When I discover one, I fix it asap, apologise to everyone, make amends if I can. Zuck did none of that.