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Re:Former Google CEO Eric Schmidt's Leaked Stanford Talk by chii on Friday August 16, 2024 @03:58AM (#41264192)
> That is largely due to Chinese chemical manufacturers who are selling the chemicals to Mexico and then those drugs are smuggled into the US.

i say china is not at all responsible for the drug, except as a contract manufacturer. If china doesn't do it, somebody else would've. China just does it cheaply.

The drug problems come from the cartels, and from the fact that US's war on drugs makes drugs expensive, and thus profitable. There's no possibility of humans relinquishing drug use - think about the prohibition and the problems that it caused.

I say, just allow drugs to be manufactured, and sold (under license and regulation) in the US. It's gonna be like alcohol. This will take away the profits from the cartels, and they will stop buying from china. It will increase tax revenue, as drug consumption can be taxed (like tobacco today is).

It will also remove the stigma, and reduce drug enforcement costs in police. The only thing society has to give up is the moral high horse of drug use.

Re:Former Google CEO Eric Schmidt's Leaked Stanford Talk by BoingBoomTschak on Friday August 16, 2024 @06:36AM (#41265097)
> The drug problems come from the cartels

Yeah, right. It comes from decadence and nothing else. Like the corruption making your solutions unrealistic.

> think about the prohibition and the problems that it caused.

Pretty sure the prohibition did reduce alcohol consumption and the associated problems a lot, it'd be a good idea to ponder the pros and the cons fairly. Also, people at that time didn't have access to other potent drugs like social media and the Internet, I wouldn't be so sure it'd be a repeat.

> It will also remove the stigma

Which is potentially the only thing that could prevent too much spread. How do you think Japanese society works?

I know I'm wasting my time "arguing" with druggies and beatniks, but it's just sad to see HN constantly swamped by them on any topic related to "free love", veganism, cars, drugs, etc...

Re:Former Google CEO Eric Schmidt's Leaked Stanford Talk by newswasboring on Friday August 16, 2024 @10:16AM (#41266649)
Are you sure drugs can be regulated the way alcohol can? They are both more addictive and behavior changing than alcohol. I don't have a solution as I also dislike the current "war" on drugs. But I suspect regulating safe fentanyl use will be way, way harder than regulating safe scotch use.
Re:Former Google CEO Eric Schmidt's Leaked Stanford Talk by chii on Friday August 16, 2024 @02:41PM (#41269138)
> safe fentanyl use

it doesn't have to be safe, just legal. If people choose it, and fuck themselves up, they're free to do so. They're doing it today already, but with the added benefit of being illegal and force resources into a drug war against the cartels.

Re:Former Google CEO Eric Schmidt's Leaked Stanford Talk by presentation on Sunday August 18, 2024 @11:29PM (#41287555)
When I was living in the USA I felt this way, but after moving to Japan, a country that is very strict on drugs and has eliminated it from the public consciousness, I feel my opinions changing. I trust myself to be able to use/not use drugs responsibly but given how irresponsible most people are, it’s undeniable the positive effects on society of NOT letting people totally destroy their brains and lives, and it is utterly daunting to think of what it would take to get the USA back on its feet re drugs.