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Re:Epic vs. Google judge says he'll 'tear the barriers down'... by _aavaa_ on Thursday August 15, 2024 @08:56PM (#41262074)
We already have third parties meant to intervene on behalf of the customers: the government.

The FTC and consumer protection agencies are elected by people (even if indirectly).

Apple does not act in the best interest of its customers. Not when those interests are in conflict with it’s own.

Re:Epic vs. Google judge says he'll 'tear the barriers down'... by lolinder on Thursday August 15, 2024 @09:02PM (#41262105)
> Not when those interests are in conflict with it’s own.

Which they very rarely have been for the majority of Apple users. There's a very small contingent of Apple users who spend time on HN who feel differently, but for most Apple users the experience that Apple offers is far and away better than that of any other tech company precisely because Apple's interests align with their own so well.

I'm just flummoxed why that small contingent of Apple users on HN gets behind the large companies' efforts to dismantle the ecosystem rather than just picking the other ecosystem that already offers the flexibility they want. It's inconsiderate of the majority of people who actually like what Apple is offering.

Re:Epic vs. Google judge says he'll 'tear the barriers down'... by _aavaa_ on Thursday August 15, 2024 @09:14PM (#41262170)
Apple interests do not align. They continue to allow blatantly predatory “games” which use the mechanics and terminology of gambling to take advantage of people. With one side of their mouth they talk about the evils of tracking and advertising and with the other they tell their investors about their growing ad platform.

I am equally flummoxed why others defend the same clearly anti-competitive behaviour. Voting with our feet is no substitute for voting with our votes.

Re:Epic vs. Google judge says he'll 'tear the barriers down'... by Jensson on Friday August 16, 2024 @06:23AM (#41265018)
> the experience that Apple offers is far and away better than that of any other tech company

Steam is a way better product than the appstore. Appstore is full of toxic games with gambling monetization and in app purchases, steam is full of games you buy upfront and dlc is clearly labeled with dollar signs in the app store instead of premium gems etc.

I blame the apple appstore for creating that toxic ecosystem that made phonegames suck so hard. If there were alternatives things would be so much better, like you have in pc gaming. Steam launching game stores in the phones would be a massive win for everyone.

Re:Epic vs. Google judge says he'll 'tear the barriers down'... by lolinder on Friday August 16, 2024 @09:16AM (#41266157)
> I blame the apple appstore for creating that toxic ecosystem that made phonegames suck so hard. If there were alternatives things would be so much better, like you have in pc gaming.

Interesting. I blame the medium [1] and the size of the audience [2]. I guess we'll see who is right, but either way I'm unconvinced a better phone gaming experience is worth letting Meta create its own app store that allows privacy shenanigans that Apple has successfully banned.

[1] Smartphones are attention-monopolizing devices by their very nature in a way that a tower PC just isn't.

[2] The majority of games on a platform will appeal to the lowest common denominator, and since ~everyone has a smartphone the lowest common denominator is very low.

Re:Epic vs. Google judge says he'll 'tear the barriers down'... by _aavaa_ on Friday August 16, 2024 @11:17AM (#41267155)
> is worth letting Meta create its own app store that allows privacy shenanigans that Apple has successfully banned

The enemy of my enemy is not my friend. If Meta is doing impinging on people's privacy we need to make it illegal, not let it be used by Apple as a selling feature for their anti-competitive practices.