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Re:Kim Dotcom's Extradition to the U.S. Given Green Light by... by microtherion on Thursday August 15, 2024 @03:55PM (#41259759)
Kim Dotcom is simply a career criminal, settling on piracy after having previously been convicted of trafficking in stolen phone calling cards and embezzlement. He simply figured out a crime that is socially more accepted than what he engaged in previously, but it was always about the money for him.
Re:Kim Dotcom's Extradition to the U.S. Given Green Light by... by whatwhaaaaat on Thursday August 15, 2024 @08:23PM (#41261884)
Know any decent computer nerds in the 80s/90s that weren’t at least dabbling in that stuff?

Hell there was a whole monthly meeting and magazine dedicated to that sort of behavior. Criminal? Yes. Part of hacker culture? Also yes.

Too bad Mr Goldstein lost all credibility (that he may or may not have had) when he started shaming folks for not taking the clot shot.

Re:Kim Dotcom's Extradition to the U.S. Given Green Light by... by vkou on Thursday August 15, 2024 @10:10PM (#41262499)
>Know any decent computer nerds in the 80s/90s that weren’t at least dabbling in that stuff?

I mean, if your definition of decent requires you to be a fraud and a conman, then no.

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My father, while he certainly pirated a lot of software back in the 90s, wasn't stealing any phone cards, or doing any embezzlement. Presumably, that makes him not decent with computers.

Re:Kim Dotcom's Extradition to the U.S. Given Green Light by... by whatwhaaaaat on Saturday August 17, 2024 @01:06PM (#41275977)
I betcha he was whistling 2600. How is that different?
Re:Kim Dotcom's Extradition to the U.S. Given Green Light by... by vkou on Sunday August 18, 2024 @07:55PM (#41286549)
It's hard to take you seriously if you can't tell the difference between making a copy of a disk, and embezzlement.

(You probably can tell the difference, because I doubt you think that the former should be a felony.)

Re:Kim Dotcom's Extradition to the U.S. Given Green Light by... by dghlsakjg on Friday August 16, 2024 @12:34AM (#41263200)
> Know any decent computer nerds in the 80s/90s that weren’t at least dabbling in that stuff?

Off the top of my head, Cliff Stoll did some pretty hackerish stuff on the right side of the law.

Re:Kim Dotcom's Extradition to the U.S. Given Green Light by... by shmeeed on Friday August 16, 2024 @06:54AM (#41265176)
Dabbling, sure. But Kim was never a dabbler. He chose to go for ALL the money and the money only, everytime.

Many people seem to forget or not know that all along his career he went ripping off fellow nerds and hackers left and right for his personal gain. He spied on them on his BBS, stole their secrets, defrauded them, ridiculed them, even tipped them off to law enforcement when it was beneficial to him. He proudly admitted to doing all of this in german interviews.

Kim and his endeavours are undoubtedly part of hacking history, but he himself was never part of the culture. He couldn't give a rat's ass about the culture if it weren't to build his legend and bedazzle his followers. All he really ever wanted was cold hard cash, Rolexes and cars.

Now come again about Goldstein?

Re:Kim Dotcom's Extradition to the U.S. Given Green Light by... by microtherion on Saturday August 17, 2024 @11:16AM (#41275136)
I know zero decent people, computer nerds or not, who engaged in embezzlement. A number of people dabbled in stealing phone services, and some of them probably made some money reselling them, but not to the tune of 60,000 euros — that's definitely career criminal territory.

And, much as it may surprise you, large numbers of "computer nerds" did NOT engage in any unlawful activities.

But your mention of "clot shot" certainly clarifies why you would be simping for a low life POS like Dotcom.