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Re:Kim Dotcom's Extradition to the U.S. Given Green Light by... by fluoridation on Thursday August 15, 2024 @10:29AM (#41256557)
It's a mockery of jurisdiction. It's a joke that NZ would sell out its own citizens like that.
Re:Kim Dotcom's Extradition to the U.S. Given Green Light by... by zaSmilingIdiot on Thursday August 15, 2024 @11:10AM (#41257004)
NZ is a member of 5 eyes IIRC, and so likely have various relations/cooperative agreements in place that make it easy(-ier) for justifying the handing of citizens over to another state.
Re:Kim Dotcom's Extradition to the U.S. Given Green Light by... by fluoridation on Thursday August 15, 2024 @11:31AM (#41257230)
I wonder if the same would have happened if the roles had been reversed. Somehow I doubt it.
Re:Kim Dotcom's Extradition to the U.S. Given Green Light by... by vizzier on Thursday August 15, 2024 @12:47PM (#41257975)
Re:Kim Dotcom's Extradition to the U.S. Given Green Light by... by fluoridation on Thursday August 15, 2024 @01:01PM (#41258128)
It's not analogous. The person was being charged of a crime that happened in the UK and fled to the US, then was extradited back to the UK to be tried. In other words how extraditions usually work.

An applicable case would be someone being extradited from the US to the UK to be tried for a crime that happened while they were in a different country.

Re:Kim Dotcom's Extradition to the U.S. Given Green Light by... by rtsil on Thursday August 15, 2024 @02:36PM (#41259068)
> It's a joke that NZ would sell out its own citizens like that.

DotCom is not a NZ citizen, he's a resident.

Re:Kim Dotcom's Extradition to the U.S. Given Green Light by... by fluoridation on Thursday August 15, 2024 @03:08PM (#41259334)
I mean, fine, but replace one word for the other in my sentence and it makes no difference, really.
Re:Kim Dotcom's Extradition to the U.S. Given Green Light by... by rtsil on Thursday August 15, 2024 @03:44PM (#41259645)
It does, inasmuch as your sentenced described the NZ jurisdiction as a mockery on the basis that it "sells out" its citizens.

Considering the number of countries that extradite their own citizens, the bar for "selling out" and "mockery" must be quite low.

And most extradited people don't have the luxury of being able to delay their trial by 12 years.

Re:Kim Dotcom's Extradition to the U.S. Given Green Light by... by fluoridation on Thursday August 15, 2024 @04:32PM (#41260056)
>It does, inasmuch as your sentenced described the NZ jurisdiction as a mockery on the basis that it "sells out" its citizens.

No. What I said was that this is a mockery of jurisdiction. I seem to recall that DotCom lived in South Korea when what he's being accused of happened. Whether he's a citizen of NZ or not, this is a joke. The US has no legal right to demand his extradition just because the servers were in the US. It's just using political power to get its way. Like I said in a different sub-thread, what, it now has jurisdiction over the entire planet and can require anyone anywhere to follow its laws?

Re:Kim Dotcom's Extradition to the U.S. Given Green Light by... by Chilko on Thursday August 15, 2024 @07:13PM (#41261483)
Note he's a permanent resident, which is a lot closer to citizen than most other resident class visas in NZ and forbids one from being spied on like the NZ government did.
Re:Kim Dotcom's Extradition to the U.S. Given Green Light by... by anothernewdude on Thursday August 15, 2024 @07:58PM (#41261769)
It's a joke that we allowed him to buy residency. I hope it was worth it for him, and only hope similar things happen to Peter Thiel.