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Re:Google Pixel 9 Pro by ToucanLoucan on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @08:07AM (#41245124)
> Am I the only one who thinks these features really don't add much to the experience?

Probably because it's just bolting more shit on the ends of a shitty, outdated relic of a system. Like, we have two different computers, one of which is playing back a pre-recorded voice, to a computer which is transcribing that voice into text and buttons, so it can play a generated voice back to the other computer, which will then interpret that voice into text, then perform an action based on that text. The action probably being repeating that process a few more times.

This is remarkably bad. I'm remembering the last time I had to deal with Apple Support. I didn't sit on hold for hours, I told them I needed a call, told them what the issue was, gave a brief summary, and then their support person called me, I was immediately on the phone with a human, she sorted out my problem, and the entire thing took probably 10 minutes tops, including filling out the form.

It feels like these legitimate challenges to businesses to manage their customer service lines, support lines, etc. have actual solutions that:

a) don't require two different damn computers talking over a shitty low-baud connection to one another, and

b) result in a better experience for all parties involved

If they'd just be willing to spend a little goddamn money, like they actually care to provide good service, rather than just paying lip service to it while offering the same garbage system they've offered since the fucking 1970's.

Re:Google Pixel 9 Pro by TeMPOraL on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @09:08AM (#41245669)
> It feels like these legitimate challenges to businesses to manage their customer service lines, support lines, etc.

Wrong. These are not challenges. The customer service lines work exactly as designed: as cheap as possible to operate, as effective as possible in preventing majority of the callers from engaging support staff and starting any kind of support process. And the magic, most people who try and fail to get support believe it's their own fault - they're not being patient enough, or persistent enough, or maybe the problem isn't that big a deal, etc.

The companies don't want you to work around the phone tree and hold time. And once most people have tools that are able to, the companies will adjust their support channels to compensate.

Re:Google Pixel 9 Pro by sangnoir on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @11:36AM (#41247312)
> result in a better experience for all parties involved

Yu are mistaken in assuming businesses want better experiences for everyone, including workflows that may lose them revenue (like cancelations).

The friction is intentional and part of a wider dark pattern strategy employed for "retention" - even Apple does this when one tries to get them to stop an unexpected recurring Apple Music subscription that only shows on ones credit card and nowhere else (apple.com or the Music app). The support number is not provided on amy of the support pages, and ine has to get their bank to stop the outgoing payments. Guess how I know this...

In light of this, I'll gladly take any client-side agent assistance I can get to make to reduce my cognitive burden; the "hold for me" emulates the support agent calling you as you described. , and the experience is more important than implementation details.

Re:Google Pixel 9 Pro by coreypreston on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @12:43PM (#41248041)
I can empathize. I recently tried to cancel Adobe Indesign. Every human stuck to the same script despite me stating 'no' up front after the first time it offered. They would confirm my intention, then when I stepped away they would cancel the chat because I was 'away' and did not double confirm that I wanted to cancel. That happened to me twice. By the third time, the sandbag was - 'You signed up for a yearly subscription, if you don't take those two free months, you will incur a early cancellation fee.' I never signed up for a yearly subscription and told them 'not accepting that'. As a gesture of 'goodwill' they waived it.

I could not understand all the Adobe hate before, but they made a neutral person negative with that experience.