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Re:Grok-2 Beta Release by seydor on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @04:01AM (#41243705)
Twitter bad, but it s not unlawful in their jurisdiction . Don't want it? dont use it
Re:Grok-2 Beta Release by esperent on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @04:08AM (#41243747)
As someone from the EU, hearing this argument over and over from Americans is exhausting.

They provide a product in the EU, therefore they must either follow EU law or exit the EU market. Just like an EU company that provides a product in the US has to follow US law.

Re:Grok-2 Beta Release by seydor on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @04:29AM (#41243891)
I am in the EU.

The line of 'following the law of another country' is grey area on the internet, given that it goes both ways:

EU online companies providing services to US users fail to provide the free speech guarantees that the US laws afford their citizens. That's because all EU countries have more strict laws limiting free speech. Should the EU companies break their own countries' law to satisfy the US audience?

Re:Grok-2 Beta Release by daghamm on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @05:37AM (#41244299)
"EU online companies providing services to US users fail to provide the free speech guarantees that the US laws afford their citizens."

Exactly what is "free speech guarantees" in the context of a private business?

Re:Grok-2 Beta Release by seydor on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @05:50AM (#41244359)
There are now states in the US which voted laws to regulate social media censorship. The US supreme court has declined ruling on them or taking them down based on companies' first amendment rights.

So it seems there are states where a europeans social medium should abide by rules that would most likely contradict european laws, right?

Re:Grok-2 Beta Release by daghamm on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @06:15AM (#41244486)
What are these state laws, can you give me an example?
Re:Grok-2 Beta Release by seydor on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @06:43AM (#41244615)
Re:Grok-2 Beta Release by Y_Y on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @04:44AM (#41244012)
> EU online companies providing services to US users fail to provide the free speech guarantees that the US laws afford their citizens. That's because all EU countries have more strict laws limiting free speech. Should the EU companies break their own countries' law to satisfy the US audience?

Could you sharpen up this claim? Like suppose I run a microblogging site but I delete libellous posts and incitements to violence in accordance with my local European law. Am I violating a US law by allowing Americans to use the site?

Re:Grok-2 Beta Release by seydor on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @04:52AM (#41244073)
i m asking the same question
Re:Grok-2 Beta Release by Y_Y on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @04:55AM (#41244089)
My understanding of your post was that you know that it violates US law and so you're asking what should be done. What I am asking is if it really does violate US law, and if so how.