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Re:SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube by PeterStuer on Tuesday August 13, 2024 @03:07AM (#41233038)
Let me state upfront I do understand the desire to make money from a channel, and much of the YT content I enjoy would not exist if that was not possible. But allow me to make a few hopefully nuanced remarks.

First of all it is not just the VPNs. Briliants, RSLs etc. that annoy, it is all sponsor reads. Even those channels that try to be creative with it, there's only so many times you can be funny about it, and then it turns into just another piece of formulaic slop.

But another reason why sponsor reads annoy me is that it breaks the youtube premium deal. I pay YT for an ad free experience. YT pays you more for my view than a 'free' watcher, and then you shove in ads anyway. Now I do get your argument that "it's not enough", but that does not change my end of the deal.

Idealy ad reads would be autoskipped for premium subscribers. If that meant premium being a bit more expensive, I would be fine with that personally.

Re:SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube by noone_youknow on Tuesday August 13, 2024 @03:30AM (#41233159)
> But another reason why sponsor reads annoy me is that it breaks the youtube premium deal.

I totally get that, and I feel the same way when I see yet another read as a viewer and premium subscriber.

I don’t really have an answer (and if I did, I’d be doing it already), but I will say that my (subjective, based on my ad placement strategy and viewer profile) experience is that premium views are worth less than non-premium - although YouTube cleverly don’t actually give me enough data to _know_ that as a fact (and it would go against their stated position, which I guess they would never do).

Re:SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube by ziml77 on Tuesday August 13, 2024 @06:48AM (#41234178)
Linus Sebastian has said the exact opposite of that whenever he's discussed the breakdown of where the money that Linus Media Group makes comes from. Premium views are worth more than free views.
Re:SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube by manuelmoreale on Tuesday August 13, 2024 @07:54AM (#41234541)
Just a guess: maybe it depends by which vertical they’re in? Not all channels earn the same so many be there are cases where non-premium users are more valuable than premium ones?
Re:SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube by kimixa on Tuesday August 13, 2024 @03:20PM (#41238696)
A game streamer I sometimes watch also said something similar - that "youtube premium" views are tracked separately and worth significant multiples per view compared to those that get ads.

They also said it isn't variable in the same way for what ads can get assigned to your content, or for "limited monetization" content (which apparently pretty much sets the ad income to zero).

Re:SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube by PeterStuer on Tuesday August 13, 2024 @06:50AM (#41234189)
If I remember correctly the numbers given were 6x more direct payouts for a premium view vs. a free view.
Re:SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube by mkaic on Tuesday August 13, 2024 @02:50PM (#41238344)
I wish YouTube Premium (and honestly, Spotify too!) had a feature where I could voluntarily commit X additional dollars per month to be directly distributed to the creators I watch according to their share of my total watchtime, with some kind of manual opt-out button for individual videos/creators that I explicitly do not want to support. I am already a member of several Patreons but wish I could cast a bit of a wider support net for the people I watch enough-to-want-to-support-them-but-not-enough-to-join-their-Patreon, yknow?
Re:SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube by vstollen on Tuesday August 13, 2024 @04:18PM (#41239344)
This somewhat reminds me on the discussions around the Web Monetization API [1] a few years ago.

I still wish for a service that gives me access to all paywalled sites or a way to sending all websites I visit a little money in exchange for them not serving ads.

[1]: https://webmonetization.org/

Re:SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube by kimixa on Tuesday August 13, 2024 @03:19PM (#41238685)
Is that not just youtube "memberships" though? The creator can choose the cost and have multiple "tiers" - I don't think there's anything stopping them having a $1 "tip jar" tier.

Sure, it's not quite the same, but at some point of similar-enough the number of people who actually use each feature becomes vanishingly small and/or the cost of managing the extra option outpaces the income, and it's just not worth it.

Re:SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube by jaderobbins1 on Tuesday August 13, 2024 @03:43PM (#41238963)
Even then I've heard of some channels uploading ad-free versions of their videos for certain membership tiers.
Re:SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube by johnnyanmac on Tuesday August 13, 2024 @07:41PM (#41241022)
>I could voluntarily commit X additional dollars per month to be directly distributed to the creators I watch according to their share of my total watchtime, with some kind of manual opt-out button for individual videos/creators that I explicitly do not want to support.

They halfway do this. The numbers are opaque but part of your premium is given to creators you watch, and that cut is based on your watch time, among other factors.

ofc I dobut we'd ever get that granular a control on CC's. As said in another reply, memberships are sort of that solution.

Re:SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube by joshvm on Tuesday August 13, 2024 @06:51PM (#41240684)
I've mentioned this in the past but I mind sponsorship a lot less when it's highly relevant for the channel. For example a lot of engineering channels are sponsored by JLPCB who provided machining services or PCBs for the project video - that makes sense.

Coffee influencers selling me NordVPN on a video about grinder particle size distribution does not.

Re:SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube by fmj on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @09:35PM (#41252393)
I've actually bought/planned to buy a few things that I was introduced to via YouTube sponsorships, but it's never been any of the generic YouTube sponsor merchandise. It's always something highly relevant to the topic of the channel, or even the specific video. Usually some sort of specialty tool.
Re:SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube by owjofwjeofm on Thursday August 15, 2024 @12:43AM (#41253138)
but if the sponsorship is relevant it could be a conflict of interest for the editorial