Re:Open source laser microphone picks up laptop keystrokes
by adrianpike on Monday August 12, 2024 @08:02PM
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I'm also super excited to see more on this, it's been living rent free in my head for a long time. I played around with keypress extraction from sound recordings a couple decades ago in college, and it was remarkably straightforward to extract keypresses based on sound signals, even with zero training - based on the time between keypresses and the unique signature of space/return/backspace you can build a predictor pretty quickly. We never made it to the "bounce a pair of lasers off two window panes a known distance apart and triangulate everyone's keyboard", but it was one of those things that's definitely doable with enough time and brains.
Re:Open source laser microphone picks up laptop keystrokes
by hippich on Monday August 12, 2024 @09:18PM
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I remember making a demo in 6th or 7th grade of console login dialog and disclosing password asking friends to log in.. they couldn't, because during typing my program would analyze time between pressing different keys.. I don't remember if I hard coded it or it was trained first... But yeah, essentially it was checking not just the password, but also signature of it..
Re:Open source laser microphone picks up laptop keystrokes
by jnwatson on Monday August 12, 2024 @08:09PM
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The main countermeasure is just curtains with a bit of weight to them.
Re:Open source laser microphone picks up laptop keystrokes
by 0cf8612b2e1e on Monday August 12, 2024 @08:53PM
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Human element is going to thwart your countermeasure when they want to let in some light.
Re:Open source laser microphone picks up laptop keystrokes
by ddfs123 on Tuesday August 13, 2024 @12:20AM
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Weighted curtains don't really help with sound dampening that much unless it's somewhat air tight. I shopped around a bit for window sound dampening products, them need to form seal around the window hole.
Re:Open source laser microphone picks up laptop keystrokes
by ssl-3 on Tuesday August 13, 2024 @01:17PM
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The word is "damping," not "dampening."
(I am willing to die on this hill.)
Re:Open source laser microphone picks up laptop keystrokes
by ddfs123 on Monday August 26, 2024 @02:03AM
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oh haha my bad, not that I can use ESL as an excuse anymore since I effectively use it more than my native.
Re:Open source laser microphone picks up laptop keystrokes
by ra on Monday August 12, 2024 @09:31PM
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I've worked in a few places that use vibrating windows to defeat parabolic directional microphones; they've been an imoportant counter espionage measure for at least 25 years - probably a lot longer!
Re:Open source laser microphone picks up laptop keystrokes
by ggm on Tuesday August 13, 2024 @02:12AM
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I'm assuming this cannot be either a stable signal or a well known source like a local Radio station because then you could "subtract" the noise and .. well get the in-room sounds just like you used to.
Or it has sufficient energy to make any transmission effects through vibration useless because broad-spectrum the glass is shaking to shakira too much anyway.
Re:Open source laser microphone picks up laptop keystrokes
by datavirtue on Tuesday August 13, 2024 @07:59AM
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Hope that frequency varies at random for the Whitehouse.
Re:Open source laser microphone picks up laptop keystrokes
by viraj_shah on Tuesday August 13, 2024 @01:46PM
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Do you have a source for the vibrating windows? That is super interesting.
Supposedly the White House uses vibrating windows to avoid this class of attacks.