Working from home allowed him to be a more engaged dad. Now it's over

Re:Working from home allowed him to be a more engaged dad. N... by ActorNightly on Monday August 12, 2024 @03:32PM (#41228356)

There isn't a definitive statement that can be made about fertility crisis. The number of 2.1 as the replacement rate is based on some estimate of human labor output. This could very well be lower in reality (i.e humans can be more efficient with technology that is not currently reflected in economics)

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Re:Working from home allowed him to be a more engaged dad. N... by docdeek on Monday August 12, 2024 @03:37PM (#41228410)

I always understood 2.1 to be the replacement rate because it would be two children to 'replace' two parents, with the 0.1 being to cover the inevitable deaths of a person before reproducing or for infertility.

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Re:Working from home allowed him to be a more engaged dad. N... by UncleOxidant on Monday August 12, 2024 @04:07PM (#41228711)

Maybe what they were saying was that that 0.1 may actually be lower in developed countries with lower infant mortality? Maybe it's more like 2.05 in developed countries? (not sure what "human labor output" has to do with it, though)

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Re:Working from home allowed him to be a more engaged dad. N... by HideousKojima on Monday August 12, 2024 @03:38PM (#41228424)

>The number of 2.1 as the replacement rate is based on some estimate of human labor output.

Replacement rate has to do with keeping the actual population number stable, not labor output whatsoever. It's 2.1 instead of just 2 because of infertility, child mortality (and mortality before reproducing generally), etc.

It has literally nothing to do with robots or efficient labor. Any TFR lower than ~2.1 will result in the total population shrinking.

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Re:Working from home allowed him to be a more engaged dad. N... by kbelder on Monday August 12, 2024 @04:07PM (#41228715)

Well, in a sense all babies are a result of human labor output ;)

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Re:Working from home allowed him to be a more engaged dad. N... by ActorNightly on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @02:31PM (#41249100)

So are you saying its based on genetics? I always thought that it was related to economics of keeping things like supply chains for food going and other factors.

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Re:Working from home allowed him to be a more engaged dad. N... by HideousKojima on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @02:50PM (#41249291)

Not even genetics, just simple population numbers. It takes 2 humans to make a new human. If each female human on earth isn't making, on average, 2 new humans (plus the .1 extra to make up for infertility and mortality) then the population of the world will shrink. Simple as.

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Re:Working from home allowed him to be a more engaged dad. N... by stefan_ on Monday August 12, 2024 @03:36PM (#41228399)

What "human labor output" can make up for a fertility rate below 2? Can you show your work?

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