Re:Apple's requirements are about to hit creators and fans o...
by goosedragons on Monday August 12, 2024 @11:57AM
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Arbitrary Apple rules. Apple decided that "physical" goods & services in app purchases don't get taxed (e.g., clothes, uber rides). Digital goods do because they feel like they can get away with it which is why you can't buy eBooks from Kobo or Amazon on iOS, can't buy or rent movies from Google on iOS. People will tell you this is for "safety" and to keep you from getting scammed but there's nothing stopping malicious actors from creating apps that promise to ship physical goods and just don't. At least with digital goods you should get whatever you pay for immediately after purchase.
Re:Apple's requirements are about to hit creators and fans o...
by crazygringo on Monday August 12, 2024 @04:43PM
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But Apple doesn't take a share of Venmo or PayPal or Zelle either.
And Patreon sure feels a lot more like those -- you're sending money to a creator.
Sometimes you get extra content, but sometimes you don't.
Re:Apple's requirements are about to hit creators and fans o...
by wpm on Monday August 12, 2024 @12:18PM
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The line is wherever Phil Schiller fucking says it is.
Re:Apple's requirements are about to hit creators and fans o...
by lovethevoid on Monday August 12, 2024 @11:57AM
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Whether Apple believes it can strongarm the related companies.
Re:Apple's requirements are about to hit creators and fans o...
by akmarinov on Monday August 12, 2024 @11:36AM
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That's the reason why Kindle doesn't sell ebooks on iOS
Re:Apple's requirements are about to hit creators and fans o...
by mintplant on Monday August 12, 2024 @12:14PM
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Apple is threatening to remove the Patreon app if they do the same.
Re:Apple's requirements are about to hit creators and fans o...
by htrp on Monday August 12, 2024 @11:31AM
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Subscriptions I expect....
Re:Apple's requirements are about to hit creators and fans o...
by Hamuko on Monday August 12, 2024 @11:31AM
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Whatever you get as a Patreon patron isn't typically a physical product, unlike something you buy on Amazon (generally speaking) or a physical car ride. It's closer to a Netflix or a newspaper subscription, and Apple wants 30% of those too.
Re:Apple's requirements are about to hit creators and fans o...
by kalleboo on Tuesday August 13, 2024 @05:47AM
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Some Patreons I subscribe to do include stuff like postcards, signed posters or prints, so it's not quite as black and white
Re:Apple's requirements are about to hit creators and fans o...
by delecti on Monday August 12, 2024 @01:48PM
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The line is "can you use the purchase solely in the app distributed through Apple's infrastructure". I think their fee is outrageous, but that does seem like a defensible line.
Re:Apple's requirements are about to hit creators and fans o...
by rondini on Monday August 12, 2024 @04:02PM
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Except they're stepping far over that line! You can use a Patreon subscription on all platforms, same as a Spotify or Netflix or Kobo... and yet they want a cut even when they have no part in the payment processing. Totally indefensible imo.
Re:Apple's requirements are about to hit creators and fans o...
by kelnos on Monday August 12, 2024 @04:25PM
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No, I think you misunderstand. It's not "can you use it elsewhere?", it's "if the user chose to, could they use the purchase solely inside the context of the Apple ecosystem?"
That is, if someone wants to, they can use Patreon's iOS app, not interact with Patreon in any other way, and get all of the benefits available to patrons.
Re:Apple's requirements are about to hit creators and fans o...
by jjcm on Monday August 12, 2024 @01:50PM
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I do wonder if a workaround here is buying a physical postcard from a patreon creator that comes with a free monthly subscription. A 50c mailed card would be cheaper for any subscription above $2.
Re:Apple's requirements are about to hit creators and fans o...
by hellcow on Tuesday August 13, 2024 @08:52AM
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I'm not sure you'd need to ship it. You're buying a 1/100,000 share of a physical postcard that exists at the Patreon offices. You can visit the office and see the postcard displayed out front under glass. It just so happens that buying such a postcard includes a free month's subscription to a Patreon creator.
why do some purchases get exempt and not others?