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Re:What I Saw in the Darién Gap by ivann on Thursday August 08, 2024 @04:43AM (#41189386)
On the "Center for Immigration Studies":

> The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) is an American anti-immigration think tank. It favors far lower immigration numbers and produces analyses to further those views. The CIS was founded by historian Otis L. Graham alongside eugenicist and white nationalist John Tanton in 1985 as a spin-off of the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR). It is one of a number of anti-immigration organizations founded by Tanton, along with FAIR and NumbersUSA.

> Reports published by CIS have been disputed by scholars on immigration, fact-checkers and news outlets, and immigration-research organizations. The organization had significant influence within the Trump administration, which cited the group's work to defend its immigration policies. The Southern Poverty Law Center designated CIS as a hate group with ties to the American nativist movement. The CIS sued the SPLC over the designation, but the lawsuit was dismissed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Immigration_Studies

And on Michael Yon in the Darién Gap:

> Since 2021, Yon has worked as a fixer in the Darién Gap, a dangerous stretch of jungle used by migrants entering the United States illegally. He has worked with figures such as Alex Jones and Laura Loomer, getting them access to the camps where legacy media are barred by security. A New York Times article noted that he targeted the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, quoting him as saying that "they’re coming across the border and it’s being funded with Jewish money.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Yon#2021-24_%E2%80%93_...

Re:What I Saw in the Darién Gap by palmfacehn on Thursday August 08, 2024 @05:18AM (#41189532)
I hope, at this point that few would be surprised that such a politically charged issue has inspired inflammatory rhetoric from "fact checkers" and their nemeses.

This could easily devolve into, "turtles all the way down" as cursory searches will reveal similar critiques of the SPLC as well as the other citations.

Re:What I Saw in the Darién Gap by ivann on Thursday August 08, 2024 @05:35AM (#41189630)
I don't need fact checkers to know it's bad when white nationalism and Alex Jones are involved.
Re:What I Saw in the Darién Gap by palmfacehn on Friday August 09, 2024 @12:41AM (#41198824)
I watched one Yon's recent videos, I didn't detect any "white nationalism". I prefer original sources over race baiting. We should be capable of evaluating individuals and their messages on their own merit. There are many areas where I disagreed with Yon, but I didn't find any of the inflammatory content your sources suggested. To the contrary, it fits with my past experience with the SPLC's partisan crusades.

https://nypost.com/2023/07/18/smearing-conservatives-for-mon...

https://www.heritage.org/religious-liberty/commentary/anothe...

https://adflegal.org/setting-the-record-straight

Re:What I Saw in the Darién Gap by ivann on Friday August 09, 2024 @09:33AM (#41201665)
I should have left the SPLC parts out because the rest is enough on it's own and you are all focusing on it so you can ignore the rest.

Also I don't understand the argument of calling it "partisan crusades" while sending me conservative Christian sources.