Re:The New MacBook Pro: Unfixable, Unhackable, Untenable
by wlesieutre on Friday June 15, 2012 @04:38PM
(#4118601)
Which is fine and dandy, but "Pay 100% more for 'there's no other way to get a RAM upgrade'" is a pretty crappy deal.
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Re:The New MacBook Pro: Unfixable, Unhackable, Untenable
by MartinCron on Friday June 15, 2012 @05:57PM
(#4118920)
It absolutely IS a crappy deal, but it's the only deal you're going to get unless you're willing to consider an alternative product.
You can always stick the cheap ram in your clunky Dell laptop.
Re:The New MacBook Pro: Unfixable, Unhackable, Untenable
by pyre on Saturday June 16, 2012 @01:00AM
(#4119913)
> your *clunky* Dell laptop
Careful, there. Your bias is showing.
Re:The New MacBook Pro: Unfixable, Unhackable, Untenable
by MartinCron on Saturday June 16, 2012 @01:44AM
(#4119975)
I use a Dell laptop every day. I really enjoy it. Competent and well-built machine. Good value, all that.
If I put it next to my wife's MacBook Pro, well, the only word for it is "clunky". Put a reasonably handsome man next to George Clooney and he'll look clunky, too.
Re:The New MacBook Pro: Unfixable, Unhackable, Untenable
by pyre on Saturday June 16, 2012 @08:03AM
(#4120444)
The idea that your choice is between a "clunky Dell" and an "elegant Apple" (a false dichotomy) shows an Apple bias to me. Sort of like the way that Free Software advocates have spent a decade or so referring to Microsoft as M$ (or Windows as WinBlows).
Re:The New MacBook Pro: Unfixable, Unhackable, Untenable
by MartinCron on Saturday June 16, 2012 @12:26PM
(#4120944)
OK. You win. If loving Apple is wrong, I don't want to be right.
Re:The New MacBook Pro: Unfixable, Unhackable, Untenable
by msutherl on Saturday June 16, 2012 @05:50PM
(#4121613)
Some things can be judged to be better than other things.
Re:The New MacBook Pro: Unfixable, Unhackable, Untenable
by pyre on Sunday June 17, 2012 @12:57AM
(#4122269)
Though 'clunky' may be an accurately descriptive adjective, I've heard/read the phrase "clunky [Dell | PC]" often enough that it seems to be a meme, similar to the usage of the term "beige box" to refer to PCs on Apple forums starting around the advent of colorful iMacs / clamshell iBooks (and falling off in recent years).
Re:The New MacBook Pro: Unfixable, Unhackable, Untenable
by abalashov on Saturday June 16, 2012 @04:13PM
(#4121487)
I just got a new Asus 13" laptop and personally find it to kick the crap out of a MacBook aesthetically, even when viewed side-by-side. :-)
Of course, they have also made it somewhat shamelessly MacBook like in certain respects: large touchpad, calculator-style keyboard...
Re:The New MacBook Pro: Unfixable, Unhackable, Untenable
by tehayj on Sunday June 17, 2012 @08:18AM
(#4122800)
Same here those Asus are way nicer imo.
Re:The New MacBook Pro: Unfixable, Unhackable, Untenable
by astrodust on Saturday June 16, 2012 @01:12AM
(#4119924)
If Dell comes up with something as refined as the MacBook Air in the next few years, I'll be truly surprised.
HP has been working towards making better products through better design. Sony keeps working on creating these crazy, over-styled products, but they are different. Dell seems to be cranking out the same basic thing.
Re:The New MacBook Pro: Unfixable, Unhackable, Untenable
by mkr-hn on Saturday June 16, 2012 @12:00PM
(#4120886)
Those aren't the only companies making Windows-based PCs. I use a Toshiba laptop.
Re:The New MacBook Pro: Unfixable, Unhackable, Untenable
by astrodust on Saturday June 16, 2012 @04:21PM
(#4121505)
They're the only companies actually working to engineer a better PC laptop. The rest are just making lazy imitations. Clunky, plastic, full of removable parts that tend to be loose, basically exactly what you get when you make incremental improvements to a 1990-vintage design.
Re:The New MacBook Pro: Unfixable, Unhackable, Untenable
by shawnc on Friday June 15, 2012 @05:58PM
(#4118928)
Really, then don't buy it and opt for a machine you can upgrade. I agree, having the freedom to upgrade is nice, if you feel you'll need to. And doing it on your own, and saving money is nice. From a warranty and support perspective - not letting people tinker with it makes it a LOT easier.
Re:The New MacBook Pro: Unfixable, Unhackable, Untenable
by nirvdrum on Friday June 15, 2012 @08:46PM
(#4119473)
True, but it makes repairs quite a bit more expensive. I have to believe it costs Apple more money to swap out an entire logic board. I know it costs the consumer more when they get slapped with bill.