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Re:Linux for UX Designers: What I learn after a year of doin... by unlisted7347 on Wednesday August 07, 2024 @07:54AM (#41180418)
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

Re:Linux for UX Designers: What I learn after a year of doin... by 01HNNWZ0MV43FF on Wednesday August 07, 2024 @08:55AM (#41180920)
It's true though
Re:Linux for UX Designers: What I learn after a year of doin... by unethical_ban on Wednesday August 07, 2024 @09:25AM (#41181237)
It is "copypasta".
Re:Linux for UX Designers: What I learn after a year of doin... by apantel on Wednesday August 07, 2024 @11:07AM (#41182206)
“GNU” was always crappy branding. Nobody wants to read it or say it or explain it. “Linux” sounds cool. So everyone calls the whole system “Linux”.
Re:Linux for UX Designers: What I learn after a year of doin... by unlisted7347 on Wednesday August 07, 2024 @11:18AM (#41182311)
More people should be aware of GNU part. I hate to see GNU having substantially less financial support than Linux.
Re:Linux for UX Designers: What I learn after a year of doin... by gjsman-1000 on Wednesday August 07, 2024 @11:59AM (#41182669)
The other reason though, is why does GNU think they are so important compared to some pretty important other system components?

Why isn't it GNU/Linux/SystemD/Mesa/Xorg? Basically every Linux desktop could be described that way.

Re:Linux for UX Designers: What I learn after a year of doin... by unlisted7347 on Wednesday August 07, 2024 @12:52PM (#41183150)
Basically, if not GNU, Linux would have stayed a hobbyist project or maybe never even happened.
Re:Linux for UX Designers: What I learn after a year of doin... by gjsman-1000 on Wednesday August 07, 2024 @01:18PM (#41183385)
So should we call it Linux/Torvalds? Linux/Torvalds/Stallman?

Heck, if Earth didn’t exist, Linux wouldn’t have happened, so Linux/Earth/Sun/Biology/Torvalds/Stallman/SystemD/Mesa/PulseAudio/Wayland…

GNU nowadays is a tiny part of the desktop. There’s also projects slowly moving to rewrite it in Rust and a more permissive license, other parts are losing importance like GCC losing to Clang, so its relevance is dying over time. Just like the FSF.

Re:Linux for UX Designers: What I learn after a year of doin... by apantel on Thursday August 08, 2024 @02:20PM (#41194640)
Or Linus would have found some other way to have a userspace and we’d still have Linux but with different tools.
Re:Linux for UX Designers: What I learn after a year of doin... by bruce511 on Wednesday August 07, 2024 @11:24AM (#41182355)
>> The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself;

True, but it's the "first part" (since GNU runs on top of it) so I call it Linux/GNU.

GNU provides the user space, and a bunch of command line utilities, but that's pretty useless these days without a GUI. So mostly I call it Linux/GNU/Gnome.

I do spend quite a bit of time in a browser though, I mean a machine that can't browse the web is pretty useless. So my friends refer to it as Linux/Gnu/Gnome/Firefox.

Of course to have a good experience in the browser you need an Adblocker. Adblock Plus is the one I use.

I've instructed all the people in the office to call it Linux/Gnu/Gnome/Firefox/AdBlock Plus. Recently though I had to chastise someone for leaving out the word "plus". I mean what are we, Barbarians??

Re:Linux for UX Designers: What I learn after a year of doin... by HexDecOctBin on Thursday August 08, 2024 @01:36AM (#41188423)
> I mean what are we, Barbarians??

Clearly, considering you are using AdBlock Plus instead of uBlock Origin :)

Re:Linux for UX Designers: What I learn after a year of doin... by mprev on Wednesday August 07, 2024 @12:57PM (#41183195)
These types of interjections haven’t meaningfully changed anything for the better in the past 20 years of people making them.

Instead, people get interested in something new and interesting. Then, for a proportion of them, some stranger will come along and language-police them.

If you believe in free software or some variant, don’t put pointless barriers in the way of people adopting it.