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Re:Why the Bitcoin Security Model Is Broken by tromp on Monday July 29, 2024 @02:33AM (#41098354)
> However, the key point is that with more transactions per block, the total sum of all those fees will be higher than what we have now with the 1 MB limit due to the competitive fee market, but still cheaper for the end user than it would be with a remaining 1MB limit.

This is quite wrong. The only way to make users pay substantial fees is to create a fee market by constraining block space. Without congestion, users will just pay the minimal fee, which doesn't amount to much even with enormous tx volumes.

For this reason Bitcoin Cash will have a security problem long before Bitcoin does.

The way to avoid problems in the distant future is not to cap supply [1].

[1] https://john-tromp.medium.com/a-case-for-using-soft-total-su...

Re:Why the Bitcoin Security Model Is Broken by hggh on Monday July 29, 2024 @09:40AM (#41100359)
> Without congestion, users will just pay the minimal fee, which doesn't amount to much even with enormous tx volumes.

But that minimal fee is chosen by the miner.

Re:Why the Bitcoin Security Model Is Broken by tromp on Monday July 29, 2024 @03:43PM (#41103128)
And historically, the minimum miner acceptable fee has been <= 1 cent per tx. A single miner (or any group short of a supermajority) that starts raising their minimal fee will just see their margins erode.
Re:Why the Bitcoin Security Model Is Broken by tromp on Monday July 29, 2024 @04:22PM (#41103414)
And historically, the minimum miner acceptable fee has been <= 1 cent per tx. A single miner (or any group short of a supermajority) that starts raising their minimal fee will just see their margins erode as other miners take over their fees.
Re:Why the Bitcoin Security Model Is Broken by thisconnect on Tuesday July 30, 2024 @03:42AM (#41106921)
1 sat/vByte
Re:Why the Bitcoin Security Model Is Broken by hggh on Tuesday July 30, 2024 @05:25AM (#41107440)
Actually, the minimum used to be 0 sat/byte.

"I don't anticipate that fees will be needed anytime soon, but if it becomes too burdensome to run a node, it is possible to run a node that only processes transactions that include a transaction fee." - Satoshi Nakamoto

https://www.bitcoin.com/satoshi-archive/emails/mike-hearn/1/...