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Re:France High-Speed Rail Traffic Disrupted by 'Malicious Ac... by sofixa on Friday July 26, 2024 @05:32AM (#41077132)
A nuclear submarine on 24/7 patrol with 16 intercontinental ballistic missiles, each with 6-10 independent nuclear warheads, says otherwise.

So does the capabilities to deploy forces and fully sustain them independently anywhere in the world, something which at most 4-5 other countries can do.

Re:France High-Speed Rail Traffic Disrupted by 'Malicious Ac... by rscho on Friday July 26, 2024 @06:07AM (#41077353)
You think anybody would choose national seppukku ? Great buddy, you launched your nukes with your big ass subz... now what do you think is going to happen? You think superpowers got no nukes close to France ? You'll be vaporized into nuclear waste gas before most of your nukes fly half the way. More realistically, you'd try to think how can France hurt superpowers economically: guess what, it can't.
Re:France High-Speed Rail Traffic Disrupted by 'Malicious Ac... by pelasaco on Friday July 26, 2024 @05:36AM (#41077147)
In the theory yes. I can imagine that when shit hits the fan, France isnt able to answer accordingly.
Re:France High-Speed Rail Traffic Disrupted by 'Malicious Ac... by sofixa on Friday July 26, 2024 @05:39AM (#41077174)
So you think France spends collectively tens of billions of euros to have nuclear strike capabilities, but wouldn't use them because... "France"?
Re:France High-Speed Rail Traffic Disrupted by 'Malicious Ac... by pelasaco on Friday July 26, 2024 @05:44AM (#41077202)
A country that has the courage to press the button, would never allow it become the social chaos that it is today.
Re:France High-Speed Rail Traffic Disrupted by 'Malicious Ac... by another2another on Friday July 26, 2024 @07:04AM (#41077602)
Most democracies tolerate a degree of social chaos since self expression and freedom of action are part of the culture.

Dictatorships on the other hand are terrified of their own people, and so crush and expression of freedom that they don't directly approve (see for instance the lady that was arrested in Moscow for standing in public with a blank piece of paper).

However in times of threat from an external force, then people group together and there's more cohesion. Would a democracy like France press the button to protect themselves or an ally under such circumstances? Yes, I think they would.

However these societies are not run by a single small cell of egotistical leaders like feudal courts of old as current autocracies are. The question is more, would these deranged autocracies have the dumb courage to risk annihilation by directly attacking the democracies they hate? Doubt it.

Re:France High-Speed Rail Traffic Disrupted by 'Malicious Ac... by pelasaco on Saturday July 27, 2024 @03:13AM (#41084963)
> dumb courage to risk annihilation by directly attacking the democracies they hate? Doubt it.

Why would any of them do that? They can seat, wait and watch the west crumble apart with almost no intervention.

Re:France High-Speed Rail Traffic Disrupted by 'Malicious Ac... by rsynnott on Friday July 26, 2024 @05:50AM (#41077250)
... Wait, which are these _non_-chaotic nuclear armed countries? Like, US: Jan 6th and all that. Russia: At least one major military coup in the last year. Britain: Brexit, new prime minister every three weeks, all infrastructure more or less at point of collapse. France: well, 'nuff said.

You could maybe argue China, I suppose? Though I think they're just better at keeping the chaos boiling just below the surface.

Re:France High-Speed Rail Traffic Disrupted by 'Malicious Ac... by basicpython on Friday July 26, 2024 @06:09AM (#41077374)
Social chaos? Revolt is part of France's DNA, since 1789. What country can claim to have no social problems? Moreover, military action and social issues are separate matters and I don't see the link with "pressing the button". Stop french bashing please.
Re:France High-Speed Rail Traffic Disrupted by 'Malicious Ac... by pelasaco on Saturday July 27, 2024 @03:15AM (#41084964)
> Stop french bashing please

Why should I? What were the French military success in the last 100 years? Paris is just degraded right now. French bashing please!

Re:France High-Speed Rail Traffic Disrupted by 'Malicious Ac... by chgs on Friday July 26, 2024 @08:41AM (#41078134)
!remindme Jan 20
Re:France High-Speed Rail Traffic Disrupted by 'Malicious Ac... by williamdclt on Friday July 26, 2024 @05:45AM (#41077210)
You can imagine whatever you want. The fact is that France is concretely prepared, "when shit hits the fan, it won't be able to answer accordingly" is a random dude-on-the-internet opinion
Re:France High-Speed Rail Traffic Disrupted by 'Malicious Ac... by pelasaco on Saturday July 27, 2024 @03:18AM (#41084974)
> The fact is that France is concretely prepared

Thank you random dude-on-the-internet for your opinion. There is however enough information about SIGINT x French Missiles in the internet. Go and find them.

Re:France High-Speed Rail Traffic Disrupted by 'Malicious Ac... by benterix on Friday July 26, 2024 @05:48AM (#41077232)
It makes no sense. The whole point of nuclear weapons is deterrence (so "theory"). The moment you actually have to use them ("practice") everybody involved loses. And the uninvolved too.