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Re:Rockstar condemns Max Payne 3 cheaters to play only again... by jiggy2011 on Wednesday June 13, 2012 @02:34PM (#4107604)
A lot of it was not just shooting skill. Most new players tended to make a lot of the same predictable mistakes, for example standing close together in big groups at the same chokepoints in the map each time so that they could all be blinded by a flashbang. Also they didn't use walk effectively so would make a lot of noise.

CS was also one of the first popular games where weapon recoil was modelled and new players would tend to spray full auto at a target (because that's what you did in quake).

Re:Rockstar condemns Max Payne 3 cheaters to play only again... by huggah on Wednesday June 13, 2012 @05:24PM (#4108541)
Though in CS recoil could be predicted and controlled. I had a friend who spent literally hundreds of hours spraying an AK at a wall on an empty server in order to practice incredibly fast and precise mouse corrections.

He was of course one of those often banned, since he was able to shoot at full auto without suffering recoil. I remember playing with him; his handle was kylyk, so I went with kylyks_meatshield.

Re:Rockstar condemns Max Payne 3 cheaters to play only again... by hef19898 on Thursday June 14, 2012 @05:43AM (#4110522)
Ah, that's what he did all the time while the rest of us was partying and drinking! :-)
Re:Rockstar condemns Max Payne 3 cheaters to play only again... by hef19898 on Wednesday June 13, 2012 @02:39PM (#4107643)
Very true. But really knew one guy personally who really shot that good. But he usually scaled back a little bit in casual games. And that spraying part took me quite a while, old habbits die hard. :-)