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Re:Every company should be owned by its employees by mbrumlow on Thursday July 25, 2024 @12:00PM (#41070187)
Happiness. What hell is it even? It means nothing.

Why? Because I am the most happy when working at a high paying job with loots of interesting problems to solve.

I would be the least happy working at a high paying job with nothing to do.

Happiness is a comparator, not a number. Money on the other hand can be counted, and thus can be measured. I am 100% sure every Greek ever would be more happy with more money given nothing else changed. Only somebody who found happiness through suffering would ask for less, and be more happy with less.

Re:Every company should be owned by its employees by coldtea on Thursday July 25, 2024 @12:05PM (#41070254)
>Happiness. What hell is it even? It means nothing

Money means even less.

>Why? Because I am the most happy when working at a high paying job with loots of interesting problems to solve.

Yes, people have been conditioned to be working.

Re:Every company should be owned by its employees by mbrumlow on Sunday August 04, 2024 @02:32PM (#41155404)
I feel like your comment proves my point. On one hand I am saying what the hell is it even? And on the other hand you are telling ME my happiness is just "because I have been conditioned to work". You did zero to address what happiness is.

Money is a way to transfer resources. Resources make people happy. Somebody with no food for 3 days is happy when they finally get food. Money buys food, therefor money can buy happiness. People like to say the opposite, but they forget money can also buy unhappiness, or when talking bout the extreme cases where somebody has 20 billion, would 1 more billion have any affect on their happiness? Oh shit, we are back to WTF is even happiness. For all we know 1B more to the 20B guy might make them more happy because they are now richer than their enemy or some other happiness driven from the count of money.

We can break this down in other ways too. Some people say family is what makes them happy. I can tell you that a family of 12 with no money is less happy than a family of 12 with enough money. Its the difference between having shoes, or eating in may cases. Its clear that happiness is a compactor, and money can change the outcome.

Re:Every company should be owned by its employees by randomdata on Thursday July 25, 2024 @12:07PM (#41070282)
> Money on the other hand can be counted, and thus can be measured.

Not really. "1 money" is just a promise to deliver 1 unit of value in the future. But what characterizes the unit? What is the difference between one unit of value and two units of value?

In reality, we don't really know. It's a continual quest to try and figure that out and it changes on a whim.

Re:Every company should be owned by its employees by sqeaky on Thursday July 25, 2024 @02:12PM (#41071604)
All of that is "I" and "me", not everyone. Happiness isn't meaningless, it just appears that you can't internalize someone else's internal state and understand how they might achieve happiness a different way than you.
Re:Every company should be owned by its employees by keybored on Thursday July 25, 2024 @06:16PM (#41073962)
Fascinating.