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Re:Senate to Vote on Web Censorship Bill Disguised as Kids S... by ndriscoll on Thursday July 25, 2024 @10:54AM (#41069426)
It does not inherently require the network to know anything more than "over 18". It does not require an age verification oracle to know anything other than "requested verification", and even that can be done only once so the oracle doesn't know how many times you provided that verification to someone. See e.g. digital IDs/driver's licenses.
Re:Senate to Vote on Web Censorship Bill Disguised as Kids S... by saurik on Thursday July 25, 2024 @11:28AM (#41069821)
Sure: if we believe that having a giant third-party in the sky that does verification of users itself a giant privacy violation that the web currently doesn't require us to subject ourselves to--and if we also believe that the information they collect won't be invasive, particularly when dealing with an international context--I absolutely agree that we can then use various cryptographic schemes to protect our information from the provider.

However, I certainly don't believe that: I believe that having a giant centralized verification service is inherently dangerous in a world where we are apparently reliant on inanity like CrowdStrike to feel a sense of security; and, in fact, there was even just recently a big hack of an identity provider company.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2024/06/hack-age-verification-...

Re:Senate to Vote on Web Censorship Bill Disguised as Kids S... by ndriscoll on Thursday July 25, 2024 @12:27PM (#41070522)
You don't need a centralized service. In the US, individual states are adopting[0] the ISO 18013-5 mDL standard, for example, which allows each state to be authoritative on identity information for its residents (or, if I understand it correctly, something like "isOver18" signed attributes).

[0] https://www.mdlconnection.com/implementation-tracker-map/

Re:Senate to Vote on Web Censorship Bill Disguised as Kids S... by tzs on Thursday July 25, 2024 @12:28PM (#41070536)
The "giant centralized verification service" can be some entity that already has your information such as your government.