Re:Apple Maps on the web launches in beta
by steve1977 on Thursday July 25, 2024 @04:16AM
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Firefox only has a marginal market share, so I can understand it's not a high priority target platform.
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Everything works if you use User-Agent switcher extension. So they went through the trouble of making an "unsupported" page and redirecting you to that page instead of doing nothing
Re:Apple Maps on the web launches in beta
by steve1977 on Thursday July 25, 2024 @04:29AM
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This is Apple. They don't expect their users to know what a User-Agent is (and even less how to install a User-Agent switcher extension).
Re:Apple Maps on the web launches in beta
by pcardoso on Thursday July 25, 2024 @05:24AM
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To be fair, Safari has a user-agent switcher built-in. Just enable the developer tools.
Not all Apple users are clueless.
Re:Apple Maps on the web launches in beta
by steve1977 on Thursday July 25, 2024 @08:03AM
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It’s called Developer Tools and not User Tools for a reason
Re:Apple Maps on the web launches in beta
by JumpCrisscross on Thursday July 25, 2024 @08:05AM
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What do you think Firefox calls it?
Re:Apple Maps on the web launches in beta
by steve1977 on Thursday July 25, 2024 @09:06AM
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The same, for the same reason
Re:Apple Maps on the web launches in beta
by pcardoso on Thursday July 25, 2024 @09:15AM
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Isn't it just a name?
A user can easily enable the developer tools if needed, same way I'm not a mechanic but can open the hood of my car.
Re:Apple Maps on the web launches in beta
by steve1977 on Thursday July 25, 2024 @10:13AM
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You can open the hood of your car, but there’s probably not much you can do there.
Re:Apple Maps on the web launches in beta
by pcardoso on Thursday July 25, 2024 @10:42AM
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Of course I can. Add cleaning water, check oil levels, replace a light bulb. No much else I can do, but others may, and other won't even do any of this.
Point is, this is not a binary choice. Between user and developer there are many people with varying skills that will use a user-agent switcher if needed.
Re:Apple Maps on the web launches in beta
by philistine on Thursday July 25, 2024 @11:52AM
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It’s not about capability, it’s about interest.
Most people could do a bit under the hood of a car, but they simply don’t care.
It’s the same thing with computers. Most users are savvy. They just don’t care.
Re:Apple Maps on the web launches in beta
by steve1977 on Thursday July 25, 2024 @12:43PM
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In my experience (systems engineer/devops for both Windows and Linux for more than 25 years), very few users are actually savvy. Even those working in tech.
Re:Apple Maps on the web launches in beta
by philistine on Thursday July 25, 2024 @05:14PM
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Our definition of savvy probably differs.
That is possible. Mine would be more or less "someone who knows what they're doing"
Yep, and this philosophy has been a significant factor in Apple's widespread success
Re:Apple Maps on the web launches in beta
by roshankhan28 on Thursday July 25, 2024 @06:47AM
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there is a good reason that most of the people prefer apple for its simplicity, its because apple only shows you what is required. i agree with you there.
“We’re not sure if this will work or not, and we don’t want to deal with you if it doesn’t, so we’re not even going to let you try.”
Extremely frustrating. If a user is smart enough to use Firefox, they're probably also smart enough to open another browser if a site does not happen to work on Firefox. (Which I haven't experienced for a while, except when using ESPHome which requires WebSerial)
Re:Apple Maps on the web launches in beta
by PlutoIsAPlanet on Thursday July 25, 2024 @05:16AM
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The point of "standards" is that you don't need to target platforms.
Re:Apple Maps on the web launches in beta
by bamboozled on Thursday July 25, 2024 @07:34AM
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Google maps works fine.