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Re:United States Discloses Nuclear Warhead Numbers; Restores... by bamboozled on Tuesday July 23, 2024 @07:04AM (#41044722)
Still feels like an opinion, as the other commenter said, look at the state of their equipment when going against Ukraine, there is little indication their nukes or their silos, bombers are much better except your opinion.

Opinions are fine, but the evidence against your opinion is currently stronger.

Re:United States Discloses Nuclear Warhead Numbers; Restores... by hollerith on Tuesday July 23, 2024 @10:05AM (#41046162)
When credible news organizations repeat Russian claims that they've completed a modernization of their strategic nukes then years and years go by with no expert or credible source (that I have noticed) contradicting the Russian claims, that is evidence. Who besides the Russian military might know about the state of Russia's stockpile? Spies for one. And until 2022 US nuke experts regularly inspected all Russian strategic nuclear sites per the START 3 treaty. They probably weren't able to disassemble any warheads as part of their inspections, but there's a lot you can learn merely by, e.g., measuring the gamma rays produced by the warhead.

Also, you do realize that Russia is currently winning in Ukraine -- in part because they have an equipment advantage over Ukraine? E.g., the glide bombs they recently developed have proven effective.

Re:United States Discloses Nuclear Warhead Numbers; Restores... by racional on Tuesday July 23, 2024 @11:15AM (#41046856)
Also, you do realize that Russia is currently winning in Ukraine

They are not "currently winning". By any objective measure, the war on the ground is currently a stalement.

Only problem is that in the long term -- stalemates never work out for the occupiers.

In Russia's case: If the situation continues as it does, and moving at the glacial pace that it does, and draining 10 percent of its GDP every year -- they will ultimately have to give up on their optional neocolonial adventure, pick up their toys and go home.

Re:United States Discloses Nuclear Warhead Numbers; Restores... by rainworld on Tuesday July 23, 2024 @05:36PM (#41051208)
>By any objective measure, the war on the ground is currently a stalement.

By any objective measure it is a war of attrition where for almost one year only one side has had meaningful advances.

>stalemates never work out for the occupiers.

Yeah, don’t bother justifying that. What actually almost never works out is a smaller country winning a war of attrition against a (much) bigger opponent.

BTW, did you catch Zelensky talk about (not) ceding 30% of territory the other day? That’s quite a bit more than the four oblasts plus Crimea. He knows where this is going.

Re:United States Discloses Nuclear Warhead Numbers; Restores... by racional on Tuesday July 23, 2024 @06:11PM (#41051505)
Only one side has had meaningful advances.

That's not true, as Ukraine has scored significant non-territorial advances (like forcing most of the occupier's fleet to retreat from Crimea) in the same time frame.

Also you're setting an arbitrary time window of 1 year (when if we want to evaluate the conflict meaningfully, we need to look at how things are moving now compared to the start of the conflict. Which is definitely not the outcome Russia intended. And ignoring Russia's considerable losses in achieving the paltry gains that it has (which are very much part of the attrition equation), etc.

What never works out is a smaller country winning a war of attrition against a (much) bigger opponent.

You're missing the point -- the smaller country doesn't need to "win" the war of attrition (in terms of effecting a complete reversal) in order to win the conflict. It just needs to outlast the occupier. For which there are no end of precedents in history, recent and ancient. Including (ironically) the U.S. withdraw from Afghanistan, which is apparently what gave Putin the gigantic (for him) hard-on that inspired him to sign his country for the same inevitable fate in the first place (but with much higher cost and KIA/WIA rates to his people along the way).

Did you catch Zelensky the other day? He knows where this is going.

I don't see any significance to that quote.

But it does seem pretty clear which side you're cheering for, in any case.

Re:United States Discloses Nuclear Warhead Numbers; Restores... by rainworld on Tuesday July 23, 2024 @07:18PM (#41052042)
>forcing [some] of the occupier's fleet to retreat from Crimea

Ah, then Ukrainians will be landing there any minute now. Liberating it and the whole coast. Now that they are patrolling the Black Sea again.

But, of course, they’re not and they’re not going to. Because it’s a sideshow that gives them no meaningful advantage. Except fodder for the fandom.

>arbitrary time window

Oh, you want to talk about how the Kontr went? How Ukraine burned its offensive potential in three months for nothing? How Russia has been on the offensive for ten months without slowing down, rather the opposite? You want to talk about how things are going right now?

>Which is definitely not the outcome Russia intended

Putler tried to force Ukraine to the table. That failed. Making Russian nationalists very happy.

>It just needs to outlast the occupier. >part of the attrition equation >effecting a complete reversal

Yeah, you simply do not understand what a war of attrition is. You don’t understand why the war is happening where it is.

You don’t understand that every day of war pushes Ukraine deeper into a hole it has no hope of ever getting out of. You don’t understand the cost of this war to Ukraine. You don’t want to and you’re not supposed to. It’s like a movie, a morality play. The only relevant concepts you were taught to understand are aggressor, victim and atrocity. The Good Guys always win In the End. In the meantime you get to watch people die and feel good about it. Doing Your Part.

The comparison with Afghanistan is infantile.

>I don't see any significance to that quote.

That comes later.

PS: I have a movie for you to watch: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantis_(2019_film)

Re:United States Discloses Nuclear Warhead Numbers; Restores... by hollerith on Tuesday July 23, 2024 @09:46PM (#41052894)
>But it does seem pretty clear which side you're cheering for

Whether Russia has the upper hand is an important question for deciding on what policies the NATO countries should pursue, but we cannot have a fruitful public discussion on the question if anyone giving evidence for one side of the question is shouted down as a traitor.

Re:United States Discloses Nuclear Warhead Numbers; Restores... by racional on Wednesday July 24, 2024 @07:00AM (#41055668)
You can try having a fruitful discussion with them if you want to.

Based on the carefully worded sibling comment to yours - it would seem they have other goals in mind.

Re:United States Discloses Nuclear Warhead Numbers; Restores... by rainworld on Wednesday July 24, 2024 @08:58AM (#41056624)
What other goals would that be?

>carefully worded

The Project 2025 promise: A Russian under every American bed.

Re:United States Discloses Nuclear Warhead Numbers; Restores... by hollerith on Wednesday July 24, 2024 @12:09PM (#41058508)
Note that I'm replying to myself.

"shouted down as a traitor" does not get at the crux of the problem I see. The problem is that anyone who thinks as follows cannot form an accurate opinion about the likely outcome of the war:

Anyone who argues that Russia is winning the war is probably a Russia sympathizer, and a Russia sympathizer shouldn't be trusted and consequently we don't have to consider his argument.

Re:United States Discloses Nuclear Warhead Numbers; Restores... by racional on Wednesday July 24, 2024 @02:59PM (#41060570)
It was more the "cutesy" (and fact-indifferent) way they were arguing their position (rather than the basic proposition what they were arguing) that suggested to me that something was off here. As confirmed by their subsequent posts. I'll withdraw the pro-Russia insinuation if you like (as whichever side, if any they may favor seems irrelevant in this context).

I've personally yet to encounter anybody who holds (or read any arguments in favor of the view) that Russia is outright winning this conflict in any tactical or operational sense, beyond perhaps a very marginal measure - without it becoming immediately clear that the person making them had major gaps in their knowledge, and/or strong biases (as revealed by reciting standard narratives as to the supposed causes of the war). Or without it emerging (as with the sibling commenter) that they just don't seem to give a fuck either way.

But this is of course a different topic.

Re:United States Discloses Nuclear Warhead Numbers; Restores... by hollerith on Wednesday July 24, 2024 @06:35PM (#41062939)
Professor of international relations John Mearsheimer claims that Russia is winning and that consequently Ukraine and NATO are in a pickle. The 60 seconds or so after this timestamp is a relevant quote:

https://youtu.be/vk0pSQtGb0g?si=NdoH3hHR-RJanp-R&t=431

Re:United States Discloses Nuclear Warhead Numbers; Restores... by racional on Thursday July 25, 2024 @07:20AM (#41067238)
Claims, without making a substantive argument.

Mearsheimer is a prime example of someone way too ideologically biased and beholden to broken narratives to be taken seriously.

Re:United States Discloses Nuclear Warhead Numbers; Restores... by danielodievich on Thursday July 25, 2024 @12:13PM (#41070367)
One thing I'll agree on John Mearsheimer is that an incredibly well articulated. He's also absolutely wrong. One of my also russian friends used one of his videos as a proof that everything is west's fault in the conflict in Russia. I patiently listened and what I heard was might makes right/who are we to meddle in the affairs of great Russia or great powers/Russia is great and we're doomed. It's a take that takes ANY agency out of Ukraine or any small country. Catnip for Z-patriots!. He's one of those "useful idiots" that Putin and his gang cultivate around the world.

For just a bit of - at the glance similar - but much, much more thought out and balanced stuff, I would recommend anything at all by Steven Kotkin. He speaks with folks from Brookings quite a bit. His experience is unparalleled and world view is considerably more nuanced