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Re:Ryanair wins screen scraping case against Booking.com in ... by mschuster91 on Monday July 22, 2024 @11:49AM (#41035783)
> They are not your useragent, they are acting as a reseller: You buy a product from them which they acquire elsewhere, taking a profit in the process.

Yeah so what? Why should anyone, be it a private person or a commercial entity, be restricted from buying something and then re-selling it to another person or entity?

The only thing I'm willing to accept as a restriction for any kind of legal transaction is a reasonable price cap (i.e. no sale above face value of tickets + 5% fees) to get scalpers under control and for security reasons (e.g. name-bound tickets for sports events to prevent hooligans from attending or flight tickets to prevent terrorists from boarding).

But neither applies in this case - flight tickets usually are not a scarce commodity that attracts scalpers and the airline has the full set of PNR data.

Re:Ryanair wins screen scraping case against Booking.com in ... by WillPostForFood on Monday July 22, 2024 @12:02PM (#41035955)
flight tickets usually are not a scarce commodity that attracts scalpers

If airline ticket resale was as easy as concert tickets, you'd probably see a predatory scalping market develop. Airplane tickets are scarce in that there is limited ability to adjust supply, especially in the short term. If flights to a destination are booked, you can't just throw another plane on the route because the gates are limited and inflexible.

Re:Ryanair wins screen scraping case against Booking.com in ... by Marsymars on Monday July 22, 2024 @04:20PM (#41039370)
> If airline ticket resale was as easy as concert tickets, you'd probably see a predatory scalping market develop.

I don't think so, because a predatory scalping market only happens when artists are pricing their tickets below the market rate.

Airlines have so such compunction, so they'd just raise their prices until scalpers no longer had a margin opportunity. Or, to put in another way, airline pricing is already as "predatory" as the most aggressive scalping markets.

Re:Ryanair wins screen scraping case against Booking.com in ... by inopinatus on Monday July 22, 2024 @04:48PM (#41039653)
> Why should anyone ... be restricted from buying something and then re-selling it to another person

because:

> flight tickets usually are not a scarce commodity

Airline tickets are not a commodity, full stop. They form a contract for a service between the airline and the customer. They're not a bag of fucking apples. Travel agents, when arranging air fares, are agents in the legal sense (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_agency) and not resellers. Booking.com were screwed on that front because they were deceptive in the particulars, a failure of good faith dealing that undermines the claim of agency.

Re:Ryanair wins screen scraping case against Booking.com in ... by mschuster91 on Tuesday July 23, 2024 @09:08AM (#41045596)
> Airline tickets are not a commodity, full stop.

Why are they not? It's not like there are any airlines beyond oil sheikh owned ones that actually deliver customer service. The only reasonable choice a customer may have is to choose between operators that fly Boeing deathtraps or not.

The commodity is getting transported from A to B, getting treated like shit including getting groped by TSA or its equivalent, and not getting replacement for a bag that's marked as "lost" when it's actually clearly trackable with an AirTag to some bowels of any in-between airport.

Re:Ryanair wins screen scraping case against Booking.com in ... by inopinatus on Thursday July 25, 2024 @02:17AM (#41065278)
Setting aside the parts of this question that sound like bitter personal experiences, the simple answer is that commodities are traded on commodity markets. If one doesn’t exist, it’s because no-one has figured out how. In this case it’ll be because bookings aren’t fungible and the services not identical.