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Re:Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate by Sabinus on Sunday July 21, 2024 @06:03PM (#41028615)
https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/25/politics/gop-senators-angry-t...

"Senior Senate Republicans are furious that Donald Trump may have killed an emerging bipartisan deal over the southern border, depriving them of a key legislative achievement on a pressing national priority and offering a preview of what’s to come with Trump as their likely presidential nominee.

In recent weeks, Trump has been lobbying Republicans both in private conversations and in public statements on social media to oppose the border compromise being delicately hashed out in the Senate, according to GOP sources familiar with the conversations – in part because he wants to campaign on the issue this November and doesn’t want President Joe Biden to score a victory in an area where he is politically vulnerable."

Re:Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate by hnthrowaway6543 on Sunday July 21, 2024 @06:14PM (#41028714)
Assuming that CNN article quoting anonymous sources is true, you're basically just making the argument that Trump is an incredibly effective leader capable of controlling his party's agenda even when he's not in charge of it, while Biden is such an inept leader that he can't even get things done when he has the highest ranking political position in the Western world.
Re:Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate by kid64 on Sunday July 21, 2024 @07:09PM (#41029174)
"Destructive" is probably a more useful characterization than "effective". But I get it.. must always praise dear leader.

I'm just curious.. in your mind, what was the objective of storming the beach at Normandy? What do you think Americans were fighting to preserve?

Re:Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate by kelipso on Sunday July 21, 2024 @06:34PM (#41028894)
Trump was the last GOP President and clear winner of the last primary, so of course he is the leader of the party and in charge of it.
Re:Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate by snake42 on Sunday July 21, 2024 @06:41PM (#41028944)
Your replies are moving the goalposts.

That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad.

Re:Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate by johnnyanmac on Sunday July 21, 2024 @08:26PM (#41029709)
>you're basically just making the argument that Trump is an incredibly effective leader capable of controlling his party's agenda even when he's not in charge of it

to my understanding, he wasn't afraid of splitting the vote and was vocal about it as far back as 2022. And apparently the R's that publicly slammed him did not want to call that bluff.

So... maybe?