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Re:10% of Cubans have left Cuba in the last year by StackRanker3000 on Sunday July 21, 2024 @08:11AM (#41024523)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Social_Mobility_Index

In this index, the Nordic countries are up top, and the US down at number 27.

A lot of people move to the US because it’s a large and very rich country, with very effective propaganda.

Re:10% of Cubans have left Cuba in the last year by Laaas on Sunday July 21, 2024 @11:25AM (#41025766)
If only. The Nordic countries solve the problem with a very easy trick: They’ve lowered the ceiling by a tremendous amount!

There’s a reason people do their startups in the US, there’s a reason the smart Nords move to the US rather than the other way around. There’s a reason Y Combinator is American.

I encourage you to try innovating in Europe (or just the Nordic countries). Please prove me wrong, for the sake of Europe.

To be fair, it’s certainly not _impossible_ to move up, but it’s relatively much harder, which is the point.

Re:10% of Cubans have left Cuba in the last year by jandrewrogers on Sunday July 21, 2024 @12:01PM (#41026004)
That index is confounded by wage compression, which is high in Nordic countries and almost non-existent in the US, and small countries with limited economic diversity. Importantly, "social mobility" is only weakly related to the ease with which you can materially improve your economic situation, which is what most immigrants are after.

I don't think it is controversial at all to say that the US has much higher economic mobility than Europe.