10% of Cubans have left Cuba in the last year

Re:10% of Cubans have left Cuba in the last year by BenFranklin100 on Saturday July 20, 2024 @11:13PM (#41022089)

If voters are concerned about crime, then the need to educated that immigrants, even illegal immigrants, have crime rates about the same as Americans at large.

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Re:10% of Cubans have left Cuba in the last year by roamerz on Sunday July 21, 2024 @12:27AM (#41022366)

I don’t think the statistical crime rate of illegal immigrants matters much to Jocelyn Nungaray’s family and friends.

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Re:10% of Cubans have left Cuba in the last year by kjkjadksj on Sunday July 21, 2024 @01:20AM (#41022579)

Oh come on. Every human population has insane people. Lets not bite hook line and sinker into conservative biases.

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Re:10% of Cubans have left Cuba in the last year by Nasrudith on Tuesday July 23, 2024 @11:05AM (#41046731)

If we are applying that emotionally charged nonsense as a standard then why not apply the same standard to the victims of police murders and conclude that the police need deported? Or exilr all doctors given the number of molesters among them?

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Re:10% of Cubans have left Cuba in the last year by roamerz on Saturday August 03, 2024 @12:28PM (#41147544)

>> If we are applying that emotionally charged nonsense..

I don’t see how that is emotionally charged. The simple fact is Jocelyn Nungaray would likely be alive today if that person had been prevented from illegally crossing the border.

Your other argument is irrelevant to my point that if border laws were enforced the crime could not have occurred in the first place.

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Re:10% of Cubans have left Cuba in the last year by rangestransform on Sunday July 21, 2024 @02:38AM (#41022963)

Because legal immigrants are both pre-filtered and have something to lose, it’s more reasonable to take the approach that one crime is too many with immigration, rather than comparing with the crime rate of society at large.

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Re:10% of Cubans have left Cuba in the last year by BenFranklin100 on Sunday July 21, 2024 @05:24AM (#41023695)

This is a MAGA talking point so there are people who agree with your take. I think that is an unreasonable and ridiculous position given its impossibility. In light of how much the US benefits from immigration overall, it’s also shortsighted.

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Re:10% of Cubans have left Cuba in the last year by rangestransform on Sunday July 21, 2024 @08:04AM (#41024493)

Zero immigrant crime is absolutely impossible, I agree, but targeting zero crime should be an immigration policy goal. Enshrining some moral obligation to help the rest of the world into law is wrong.

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Re:10% of Cubans have left Cuba in the last year by BenFranklin100 on Sunday July 21, 2024 @09:30AM (#41024939)

Again, you’re repeating MAGA talking points. Targeting zero crime is code for restricting legal immigration via Byzantine immigration requirements. Moreover, the goal has been largely achieved: immigrants are significantly less likely to commit crimes than Americans [1], [2]. Your last sentence is nonsensical in the current context.

[1] https://news.northwestern.edu/stories/2024/03/immigrants-are...

[2] https://www.nber.org/papers/w31440

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