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Re:Visual programming should start in the debugger by dboreham on Friday July 19, 2024 @09:25PM (#41013226)
For reasons I don't fully understand most younger programmers today don't know anything about debugging or debuggers.

The syndrome seems to track with FP and async and possibly with "teaching" programming. FP and async typically don't work well with today's debuggers. Back in the day nobody was taught to program -- they figured it out by doing. When you are taught by someone who themselves never "did" something about the practice gets lost, imho.

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Re:Visual programming should start in the debugger by kmoser on Friday July 19, 2024 @10:42PM (#41013608)
> Back in the day nobody was taught to program

Do you mean the 1940s and 1950s? Because by the 1960s, Comp Sci was taught as a discipline and by the 1970s and 1980s anybody who wanted to work in the industry was expected to get a BS degree as a minimum (PhD if you were serious).

Sure, there were still people learning on their own, but they were either smart enough to improve significantly, or amateurs who would always produce spaghetti code which the pros (read: Comp Sci grads) ended up rewriting.