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Re:AI paid for by Ads – the GPT-4o mini inflection point by tkgally on Friday July 19, 2024 @07:14PM (#41012432)
I remember an HN comment six months or so ago by someone who said they were intentionally modeling their writing on ChatGPT's style. The person said that they were not confident about writing and that they were trying to get better by imitating AI.

One of the many surprising things to me about ChatGPT when it was first released was how well, in its default style, it imitated the bland but well-organized writing style of high school composition textbooks: a clearly stated thesis at the beginning, a topic sentence for each paragraph, a concluding paragraph that often begins "In conclusion."

I mentioned that last point—the concluding "In conclusion"—as an indicator of AI writing to a university class I taught last semester, and a student from Sweden said that he had been taught in school to use that phrase when writing in English.

If I see HN comments that have final paragraphs beginning with "In conclusion" I will still suspect that an LLM has been used. Occasionally I might be wrong, though.

Re:AI paid for by Ads – the GPT-4o mini inflection point by SoftTalker on Friday July 19, 2024 @09:02PM (#41013117)
I was taught in high school that using "In conclusion" to open your conclusion was cliche and really almost like an unnecessary slap in the face to the reader. Your composition should end with a conclusion, yes. There was a standard formula for that, yes. But it's not necessary to literally label it as such.
Re:AI paid for by Ads – the GPT-4o mini inflection point by lupire on Saturday July 20, 2024 @08:43AM (#41016061)
Many of the disliked essay writing cliches are good speech tropes. The difference between reading and listening is that in reading you can skim and skip and rewind, so you don't need structured signposts to guide you through the content. In listening you do. You can't see the last paragraph coming when listening to a speech.

An entertaining informative style of speech can detract from clearly communicating substance. (Of course, the audience rarely wants substance.)

Re:AI paid for by Ads – the GPT-4o mini inflection point by squeaky-clean on Saturday July 20, 2024 @02:46AM (#41014613)
I've intentionally changed some parts of I've comments I've written just because upon reading them back, it felt very close to ChatGPT's style at certain sentences.
Re:AI paid for by Ads – the GPT-4o mini inflection point by rvnx on Saturday July 20, 2024 @05:02AM (#41015136)
A "seamless" rewrite as our AI friends say
Re:AI paid for by Ads – the GPT-4o mini inflection point by tkgally on Saturday July 20, 2024 @05:10AM (#41015162)
I understand. A few months ago, I posted a comment here that attracted several down votes. The content, I thought, was completely innocuous, and I couldn’t figure out at first why some people didn’t like it. Only later did I realize that I might have polished it a little too much and it came out reading like ChatGPT.