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Re:Ryanair – when every page is a dark pattern by tyho on Friday July 19, 2024 @06:36AM (#41004640)
This is like a very regressive tax policy. If you are high capability individual, you will sail through these screens and avoid adding extra charges, if you are a ... low capability individual, you won't be able to do that, and you end up subsidising the travel of those smarter than you.
Re:Ryanair – when every page is a dark pattern by hiAndrewQuinn on Friday July 19, 2024 @08:11AM (#41005538)
That's a fascinating take. Dark patterns as regressive tax, or equivalently, tech savviness as regressive credit.

Reminds me a bit of this old post: https://putanumonit.com/2018/08/09/jobs-inside-the-api/

Re:Ryanair – when every page is a dark pattern by nicbou on Friday July 19, 2024 @06:42AM (#41004712)
It's not a matter of intelligence, but it's definitely a modern form of "street smarts".
Re:Ryanair – when every page is a dark pattern by Obscurity4340 on Friday July 19, 2024 @06:54AM (#41004810)
"Series of tubes" smarts
Re:Ryanair – when every page is a dark pattern by exe34 on Friday July 19, 2024 @07:04AM (#41004908)
Or for me, a tax for ADHD.
Re:Ryanair – when every page is a dark pattern by adalacelove on Friday July 19, 2024 @07:10AM (#41004960)
We all pay, you find harder to pay in attention instead of money, but either way it's a cost on society
Re:Ryanair – when every page is a dark pattern by exe34 on Friday July 19, 2024 @10:45AM (#41007074)
i end up paying the higher price instead of attention which I do not have. just recently I got given a deliveroo voucher, which I added to my account. there's no way to figure out how much is left at any time, unless you're about to commit to an order. I ordered some food, thinking I'll pay with the free credit - nope, I missed the bit where you have to change the payment option from card to voucher credit.
Re:Ryanair – when every page is a dark pattern by rpastuszak on Friday July 19, 2024 @07:21AM (#41005087)
> those smarter than you.

That’s such a terrible and unfair take.

Less tech savvy or more busy/tired people are not less smart than you. I can’t believe I actually have to put that in words.

Re:Ryanair – when every page is a dark pattern by bruce343434 on Friday July 19, 2024 @09:26AM (#41006329)
Just wait until GP is retired and old, they will finally garner some sympathy because by then they will themselves be "a ... low capability individual".
Re:Ryanair – when every page is a dark pattern by hawski on Friday July 19, 2024 @09:50AM (#41006576)
I think OP used "..." because he has some sympathy. He could use better word than "smarter", but it is indeed a certain kind of smartness.

I am sure that when I will get old I will become less capable and I am worried about this. Because looking at birth rates and inverted population pyramids around me signify that I will be an old man in the sea of old people. A conman's dream I suppose. It is not that I don't have sympathy saying all this (just as I think OP thinks) for those other people, quite the opposite, because if I will live long enough I will be one of them.

Re:Ryanair – when every page is a dark pattern by pydry on Friday July 19, 2024 @06:57AM (#41004843)
This is why I have started booking flights for my less tech savvy parents. Theyre terrified of the dark patterns.

As I understand it American medical care is quite similar.

Late stage capitalism isnt much fun. Far too many forms.

Re:Ryanair – when every page is a dark pattern by zeroCalories on Friday July 19, 2024 @07:15AM (#41005020)
I find myself reluctant to go to the doctor, dentist, etc. because I always feel like they're trying to upsell me on some bullshit, or doctors that split treatment into multiple 15 minute visits to squeeze me as much as possible.