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Re:Ryanair – when every page is a dark pattern by daemin on Friday July 19, 2024 @06:27AM (#41004571)
I don't use Ryanair specifically but these patterns are commonly found on all other discount airlines, and even some regular airlines as well.

One particularily devious example is when you log into WizzAir's website, the check box under the login (which takes your email and password) is not "Remember me", but rather "Subscribe me to marketing emails".

Always takes me a moment not to select it.

Re:Ryanair – when every page is a dark pattern by jen729w on Friday July 19, 2024 @06:30AM (#41004603)
Oh, Australia's Kogan -- a wannabe Amazon -- has you beat there.

When you buy anything, you're back on the list. No questions. No option. No chance of not being. You just are.

And it's a really aggressive list. An email a day, minimum.

I've switched to Amazon, and it's nicer. What does that tell you.

Re:Ryanair – when every page is a dark pattern by brabel on Friday July 19, 2024 @07:34AM (#41005192)
Is Amazon bad? I bought a headphone from Amazon, which has just arrived in Sweden. Before that, I used almost every service for delivery here and they were ALWAYS terrible. They said 3 to 5 business days for delivery, and it took 6 business days. Every time. When they had the 1 to 2 days option (which was rare, and when they did it was expensive), it would never come within that timeframe either. I checked some Terms and Conditions and apparently they were within the law because they're allowed a few extra days due to unforeseen circumstances.

That's why I tried Amazon this time. For a small fee, they had "next day delivery". I tried it. God damn it worked! The very next morning my item was ready for pick up at the nearby grocer.

Signing up was extremely easy and to my amusement, they had the lowest price as well. I don't know, but so far I am thinking Amazon is very much the best in the business. I am extremely surprised they managed to be so efficient even in Sweden, despite every workplace regulation making efficiency a very difficult, if not impossible, goal to achieve.

Re:Ryanair – when every page is a dark pattern by daemin on Friday July 19, 2024 @08:32AM (#41005785)
He is saying that Kogan want to be Amazon in Australia, and that Kogan has many dark patterns, not that Amazon is itself bad.

Though I do agree that Amazon was better when it was just a book retailer and not an example marketplace site for AWS.

Re:Ryanair – when every page is a dark pattern by n1b0m on Friday July 19, 2024 @07:01AM (#41004880)
Is this not illegal in Australia?
Re:Ryanair – when every page is a dark pattern by jen729w on Friday July 19, 2024 @10:10PM (#41013422)
Re:Ryanair – when every page is a dark pattern by daemin on Friday July 19, 2024 @06:33AM (#41004617)
Thanks for the warning for when I return to Australia.
Re:Ryanair – when every page is a dark pattern by jen729w on Friday July 19, 2024 @06:49AM (#41004761)
Wait till you see what happened to Dick Smith.

https://www.dicksmith.com.au/da/shop/?q=shoes

It's just a Kogan skin. As is Matt Blatt, formerly furniture. Really weird.

Re:Ryanair – when every page is a dark pattern by tgsovlerkhgsel on Friday July 19, 2024 @09:00AM (#41006057)
This sounds like it both should and would land them on every anti-spam system's shitlist.
Re:Ryanair – when every page is a dark pattern by jadyoyster on Friday July 19, 2024 @07:42AM (#41005262)
WizzAir is even worse than Ryanair with dark patterns in my experience. Super annoying.