Re:Americans' confidence in higher education has taken a nos...
by tootie on Wednesday July 17, 2024 @11:13PM
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It seems all the concerns boil down to economics. I don't think people did nearly as much cost-benefit analysis in the past. The fact that college was affordable meant you were freer to experiment and enjoy yourself. Now that the price is so high, it entails pressure to get your money's worth. Thus creating a vicious cycle.
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Re:Americans' confidence in higher education has taken a nos...
by roenxi on Wednesday July 17, 2024 @11:38PM
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Unusually, I don't think "all economics" is the right take. The political aspect of this seems to be significant. Education isn't being seen as a neutral path for people who are bettering themselves, these poll figures suggest it is a politically active institution.
Re:Americans' confidence in higher education has taken a nos...
by guccigav on Wednesday July 17, 2024 @11:26PM
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The increase in price probably comes from a combination of demand for college education and some monopolistic competition in the accredited university market, where government regulation suppresses the supply of accredited universities. I think we're seeing some change with the latter supply (e.g. community college, online degrees, etc) but demand for a U.S. college degree still stands strong on the global market from international students.
It would be nice to get data on yearly university applications and do an empirical analysis on supply and demand.
Re:Americans' confidence in higher education has taken a nos...
by claytongulick on Wednesday July 17, 2024 @11:43PM
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> The increase in price probably comes from a combination of demand for college education and some monopolistic competition in the accredited university market
I think you're missing a big factor, rising admin spend [1].
[1] https://www.usnews.com/education/articles/one-culprit-in-ris...
Re:Americans' confidence in higher education has taken a nos...
by ryandrake on Wednesday July 17, 2024 @11:24PM
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I'm not so sure it's a cycle. Ultimately, employers' requiring a college degree for more and more jobs is what drives the increasing demand, and the increasing demand results in increasing prices. And employers require a college degree because they need some kind of coarse selection screen, and don't seem to have any other way to distinguish capable applicants from incapable ones.
Re:Americans' confidence in higher education has taken a nos...
by throwaway14356 on Wednesday July 17, 2024 @11:37PM
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should increasing demand increase prices?
Re:Americans' confidence in higher education has taken a nos...
by s1artibartfast on Thursday July 18, 2024 @01:56AM
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It is all of the following factors: restricted supply, price indifferent consumers, free credit, on-academic competition between colleges, high regulation, and administrative bloat.
If you set these factors aside, there is no reason people couldn't get a legitimate bachelors for a few thousand dollars a year.
you could literally run an engineering program using class recordings from MIT and Stanford out of a community center like AA meetings.