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Re:Immunotherapy Is Changing Cancer Treatment Forever by RyanAdamas on Monday July 15, 2024 @03:52PM (#40970928)
No, please provide evidence to the counter since it's the Cancer Industry constantly pitching a goal of a cure that always seems to turn into a treatment. You don't need evidence when logic will do. Don't convince yourself that studies in a captured industry of academia would even be allowed to surface.

I'm not a debate-me-bro, you seem to an evidence-shill.

Re:Immunotherapy Is Changing Cancer Treatment Forever by fluoridation on Monday July 15, 2024 @04:17PM (#40971127)
I'm curious, what do you think the difference is between a "cure" and a "treatment"? I imagine when you think cure you think about a pill that you take once and it uncancers you instantly. But wouldn't that also be a treatment? I get that you're criticizing the medical industry for financially draining patients, but what would stop someone from charging any exorbitant price for a pill that instantly cures your cancer?
Re:Immunotherapy Is Changing Cancer Treatment Forever by RyanAdamas on Monday July 15, 2024 @04:41PM (#40971303)
A cure is something that solves a health condition 100% of the time. A treatment is a prolonged procedure with only a chance of success. One is a profit generating machine, the other loses customers.

You know, a cure - like what they pretended the vaccine was that somehow was forced through the almost impossible system of medical approvals that has stalled real cancer research for decades.

Re:Immunotherapy Is Changing Cancer Treatment Forever by pfdietz on Monday July 15, 2024 @06:16PM (#40971933)
A cure is something that completely obliviates the problem on a particular patient. It doesn't have to work on every patient.

And, of course, medical treatments can be very valuable even if they fall short of a "cure".

Re:Immunotherapy Is Changing Cancer Treatment Forever by spondylosaurus on Monday July 15, 2024 @04:47PM (#40971339)
What is "the vaccine"?
Re:Immunotherapy Is Changing Cancer Treatment Forever by methodical on Monday July 15, 2024 @04:24PM (#40971186)
You really need to learn about the burden of proof, since you'd (hopefully) be able to figure out that in this case, the burden of proof is on you to prove what you're saying is accurate. HN isn't a place for hand waving arguments where your only supporting proof is "logic".
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Re:Immunotherapy Is Changing Cancer Treatment Forever by methodical on Monday July 15, 2024 @04:53PM (#40971375)
The irony is palpable. Stating your position and then never providing any supporting proof is not a "valid and sound" argument.
Re:Immunotherapy Is Changing Cancer Treatment Forever by RyanAdamas on Monday July 15, 2024 @07:31PM (#40972395)
The truth of the premises do not require empirical evidence as you seem to require, they require the premises be true.

- Oncology is a for-profit business

- Curing customers reduces profits

- Treating customers increases profits

- Curing cancer is bad for business

Do you understand how logic works or is your brain fried by "where's the study bro..." Give me a break, man. Do you have any interest in sincerity or is your job at stake otherwise?

Re:Immunotherapy Is Changing Cancer Treatment Forever by slibhb on Monday July 15, 2024 @04:26PM (#40971211)
> You don't need evidence when logic will do.

No one has the ability to make logical deductions about the world in the manner you've done in this thread.

Cancer is just a tough nut to crack. While a blanket cure remains a pipe dream, there is lots of promising research and life expectencies keep going up.