Re:Ask HN: Why does no one seem to care that AI gives wrong ...
by 1vuio0pswjnm7 on Wednesday July 10, 2024 @10:00PM
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I believe I saw this research featured in a documentary or some other film. Am I remebering incorrrectly.
Re:Ask HN: Why does no one seem to care that AI gives wrong ...
by 0x00_NULL on Thursday July 11, 2024 @02:14AM
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I’m not aware of any specific films we were in. We filmed a lot of our robotics trials for various collaborations, but no documentaries while I was there. Shortly after I left, my team got some acclaim for their Lunar Ark project (which is really cool). But, I had been out for a couple of years by that point. If they filmed a documentary, it likely would have been for that project.
Once I started seeing these behaviors in our robots, their appearance became much more pronounced every time I dug deeply into proposed ML systems: autonomous vehicles, robotic assistants, chatbots, and LLMs.
As I've had time to reflect on our challenges, I think that neural networks very quickly tend to overfit, and deep neural networks are incomparably overfitted. That condition makes them sensitive to hidden attractors that cause the system to break down when it is near these areas - catastrophically.
How do we define "near"? That would have to be determined using some topological method. But these systems are so complicated that we can't analyze their networks' topology or even brute-force probe their activations. Further, the larger, deeper, and more highly connected the network, the more challenging these hidden attractors are to find.
I was bothered by this topic a decade ago, and nothing I have seen today has alleviated my concern. We are building larger, deeper, and more connected networks on the premise that we'll eventually get to a state so unimaginably overfitted that it becomes stable again. I am unnerved by this idea and by the amount of money flowing in that direction with reckless abandon.